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Is Section 179 actually worth it for business vehicles or just overhyped?

I moved to the US about a year ago and I'm trying to wrap my head around tax deductions for my small business. Everyone keeps talking about Section 179 for buying expensive vehicles, but I'm not convinced it's as amazing as YouTube makes it sound. Here's my question: Is there any actual financial benefit to Section 179 versus just doing normal depreciation over the vehicle's lifetime? For example, let's say I purchase a truck for $75,000 for my business, and after 5 years I sell it for $20,000. With Section 179, I could write off the entire $75,000 in year one and save maybe $15,000 in taxes that year (assuming 20% tax rate). But then when I sell the truck later for $20,000, I'd have to pay recapture tax on that amount, right? About $4,000? Compared to just depreciating it normally over 5 years, it seems like I'd end up in roughly the same place financially when all is said and done. Am I missing something that makes Section 179 actually worthwhile, or is it just about getting tax savings upfront rather than spread out?

You're on the right track with your thinking! Section 179 isn't magic - it's basically a timing benefit. Instead of spreading deductions over several years, you get them all upfront. The main advantage is the time value of money. Getting a $15,000 tax reduction today is worth more than getting $3,000 per year for 5 years because you can invest or use that money now. Think about what your business could do with that extra $15,000 in year one - expand, hire someone, or invest it. You're also correct about recapture. If you sell the vehicle later for more than its depreciated value (which would be zero if you took Section 179), you'll pay taxes on that gain. But remember, you've enjoyed the use of those tax savings for years by that point. Another consideration: Section 179 has vehicle limits. In 2024, there's generally a $28,900 limit for SUVs, trucks and vans over 6,000 lbs. Vehicles below that weight have even lower limits. So you probably can't deduct the full $75,000 unless it qualifies as specialized equipment.

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What if the business isn't making enough profit to take advantage of the full Section 179 deduction in year 1? Is there any way to still get the benefit or should you just go with regular depreciation then?

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That's an excellent question! If your business doesn't have enough taxable income to absorb the full Section 179 deduction, you can carry forward the unused portion to future tax years. So you don't lose the deduction - you just spread it out. In that scenario, you might want to consider taking a partial Section 179 deduction (up to your profit amount) and then depreciating the rest normally. It really depends on your projected profitability for the next few years and your cash flow needs.

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Does it work for other business deductions too or just Section 179 stuff? My tax situation is complicated with rental properties and a side business.

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Sounds interesting but how accurate is it really? I've been burned by online tax tools before that missed important details and I ended up paying penalties.

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My issue with Section 179 wasn't understanding it - it was trying to actually GET the refund after filing! I claimed it on my mobile detailing van last year and the IRS held my refund for MONTHS with zero explanation. Calling them was impossible - always got "high call volume" messages and disconnects. Finally found https://claimyr.com and watched their demo at https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. They got me connected to an actual IRS agent in like 15 minutes when I'd been trying for weeks. The agent explained there was a "review flag" on my Section 179 deduction that needed verification, and they resolved it right there. Got my refund with the Section 179 savings two weeks later. If you do take Section 179, just be prepared for possible IRS scrutiny. Having a way to actually reach them when questions come up is essential.

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One thing nobody's mentioned about Section 179 - the rules changed this year for bonus depreciation. It dropped from 80% to 60% for 2024, and keeps dropping by 20% each year until it's gone in 2027. This actually makes Section 179 MORE valuable compared to bonus depreciation going forward. Just something to keep in mind when you're running the numbers for your situation.

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Wait, I'm confused about the difference between bonus depreciation and Section 179. Aren't they the same thing? And is this reduction something I need to worry about for a purchase I might make next month?

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They're similar but have important differences. Section 179 lets you choose which specific assets to expense, while bonus depreciation automatically applies to all eligible assets. Section 179 also has business income limitations (can't create a loss), while bonus depreciation can. For a purchase next month, yes, it matters. If you're comparing Section 179 vs. regular depreciation plus bonus, you'd now only get 60% bonus depreciation instead of 80% last year. This effectively makes Section 179 more attractive since you can still deduct 100% upfront (subject to limits). I'd run the calculations both ways based on your specific situation and tax bracket.

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Anyone know if getting a car loan affects how Section 179 works? I'm looking at a $45k work van but financing most of it. Can I still claim the full amount or only what I put down?

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You can claim the full purchase price regardless of how you finance it. I did this last year with a truck for my construction business - financed 90% but still got the full Section 179 deduction. Just make sure the vehicle is used for business 50%+ of the time.

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Great question about financing! You can definitely claim the full Section 179 deduction on the entire purchase price, not just your down payment. The IRS considers you to have "placed the asset in service" when you start using it for business, regardless of your financing arrangement. Just keep a few things in mind: make sure you have adequate business income to absorb the deduction (Section 179 can't create a business loss), and document that the van is used more than 50% for business purposes. Also, don't forget about the vehicle weight limits - if your van is over 6,000 lbs GVWR, you might be able to deduct more than the typical passenger vehicle limits. The financing actually works in your favor from a cash flow perspective - you get the full tax benefit upfront while spreading the actual payments over time.

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This is super helpful! I had no idea about the weight limits - my van is actually 6,800 lbs GVWR so that's good news. One follow-up question: if I'm financing the van, do I need to wait until I've paid it off to sell it and deal with the recapture taxes, or can I sell it anytime and just pay off the loan with the proceeds?

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