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Is Retirement Savings Contribution Credit actually increasing my refund despite being non-refundable? TurboTax shows $500 more

I'm a bit confused about how this Retirement Savings Contribution Credit works. Currently, my federal refund is showing around $1350, but TurboTax is telling me I qualify for approximately $670 in Retirement Savings Contribution Credit because of my 401k contributions. The weird part is that this $670 gets added to my refund (bringing it to about $2020), but only if I shell out $54 to upgrade to TurboTax Deluxe. I always thought non-refundable credits couldn't increase your refund and would only reduce what you might owe in taxes, which in my case should be practically nothing. Is TurboTax accurately showing this, or is this just a trick to get me to upgrade to Deluxe? Obviously, I'll pay the $54 if I can actually get that $670 added to my refund, but I'm not sure if that's how this credit actually works. Anybody know what's going on here? Thanks!

This isn't a trick - the Retirement Savings Contribution Credit (sometimes called the Saver's Credit) is working exactly as it should. While it is a non-refundable credit, that doesn't mean it can't increase your refund. Let me explain the difference: A non-refundable credit can reduce your tax liability down to zero, but not below zero. In contrast, a refundable credit can reduce your tax liability below zero, essentially giving you money you never paid in. What's likely happening is that you had taxes withheld from your paychecks throughout the year. Let's say you had $2000 in federal tax liability before credits, and your employer withheld $3350 from your paychecks. That would give you a $1350 refund to start. When the $670 Saver's Credit is applied, it reduces your tax liability from $2000 to $1330, which means more of your withholding gets refunded to you - bringing your total refund to $2020.

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I'm still confused. If it reduces tax liability, how does that differ from the standard deduction? I have a similar situation but with child tax credits. Do non-refundable credits get applied before or after calculating your initial refund?

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The standard deduction reduces your taxable income (the amount of income that's subject to tax), while credits directly reduce the tax you owe. For example, if you're in the 22% tax bracket, a $1,000 deduction saves you $220 in taxes (22% of $1,000). But a $1,000 credit saves you the full $1,000 in taxes. Non-refundable credits are applied after calculating your initial tax liability but before calculating your refund. Tax calculation generally follows this order: calculate total income → subtract deductions → calculate initial tax → subtract credits → compare to withholding → determine refund/amount owed.

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To explain this really simply: Think of it this way - Your employer took $3350 out of your checks throughout the year for taxes. Without the Saver's Credit, your actual tax bill is $2000. $3350 - $2000 = $1350 refund With the Saver's Credit, your tax bill drops to $1330. $3350 - $1330 = $2020 refund The credit is "non-refundable" because it can only reduce your tax bill to zero, not below zero. But since your withholding is higher than your tax bill even after the credit, you get more back.

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This is the clearest explanation I've seen! Quick follow-up: does this mean if my tax bill was only $500 before the credit, I'd only get $500 of benefit from the $670 credit since it can't go below zero?

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That's exactly right! If your tax bill was only $500 before the credit, you'd only get $500 of benefit from the $670 credit, not the full $670. The remaining $170 would essentially be "lost" because non-refundable credits can't reduce your tax liability below zero. This is why refundable credits (like the Earned Income Credit or Additional Child Tax Credit) are more valuable for lower-income taxpayers - they can actually give you back more than you paid in.

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Can confirm. I used FreeTaxUSA this year and claimed the Retirement Savings Credit with their free version. Only had to pay like $15 for state filing. TurboTax wanted $120+ for the same exact thing.

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