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Reginald Blackwell

International student tax return for 2019 - need help with U.S. address when I've left the country

So I'm in a bit of a complicated situation with my tax returns. I was an international student in the US from 2013 until I graduated in December 2018. I previously filed Forms 8840 and 8843 for the 2018 tax year. For 2019, I need to file again but I'm confused about what to put for "Address in the United States" in the line that says "Fill in your addresses only if you are filing this form by itself and not with your U.S. tax return." My situation: I stayed in the US from January to March 2019 waiting for my OPT to be approved. During those months, I was renting a room in a house. My OPT was approved on April 14, 2019, but by then I had already left the US in March and decided not to pursue OPT work, so my OPT status was eventually cancelled. I want to claim the second exception to the substantial presence test, with reference to 7701(b)(5)(D) and (E) and in Treasury Regulations § 301.7701(b)-3(b)(7)(iii) and 301.7701(b)-2(d)(1). Am I citing the laws in Title 26 of the United States Code correctly? The relevant section should be: * Title 26. Internal Revenue * Chapter I. INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE, DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY * Subchapter F. PROCEDURE AND ADMINISTRATION * Part 301. PROCEDURE AND ADMINISTRATION * Subpart. Information and Returns * Section 301.7701(b)-0. Outline of regulation provision for section 7701(b)-1 through (b)-9. Any help would be appreciated!

Yes, you'll need to file Form 8843 for 2019 as well since you were physically present in the US during part of that year as a student on F-1 status (and later pending OPT). For the US address section, you should use the last address where you physically resided in the US during 2019, which would be the room you were renting from January to March. Even though you no longer live there, it was your US address during the tax year in question. Your citation of the regulations seems generally correct. The substantial presence test exception for students is found in those sections, though you don't necessarily need to cite them on your forms. The IRS is primarily concerned with the facts of your situation rather than your legal research (though it's good you know your rights). Since you were in F-1 status and then pending OPT status during 2019, you qualify for the exemption from the substantial presence test for that period, meaning you'll be classified as a nonresident alien for tax purposes.

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Thanks for the info. If I use the last address where I stayed, but I'm mailing this form separately (not with a tax return), will the IRS try to mail anything to that old address? Could that cause issues since I don't live there anymore? Should I include my current foreign address somewhere as well?

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You should definitely include your current foreign address in the "Foreign address" section of the form. That's where the IRS will send any correspondence. The US address is just to document where you resided during the tax period. The IRS won't typically send anything to your old US address if you properly complete the foreign address section. They understand that international students and scholars often return to their home countries. Just make sure your current address abroad is clearly indicated as the mailing address.

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I'm skeptical about online services handling complicated international tax situations. How well does it deal with citing specific Treasury Regulations like the original poster mentioned? Did it confirm the legal basis for the exemptions?

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This sounds too good to be true. The IRS phone systems are completely overwhelmed. I've tried calling multiple times about my international student status and never got through. How could some third-party service possibly fix that?

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Having been an international student advisor for years, I can share that you should definitely use your last US address from when you were physically present in 2019. For the substantial presence test exception, you're on the right track with the citations, but make sure you also complete Part II of Form 8843 completely. Since your OPT was pending and then approved (even though you didn't use it), you maintained your F-1 status during that period in 2019, which means you still qualify for the student exemption from the substantial presence test. Keep in mind that the 5-year rule might impact you soon if you return to the US, since you started in 2013. After 5 calendar years of presence as a student, the substantial presence test exemption begins to have limitations.

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Thank you for this detailed information. I've been worried about the 5-year rule. Since I started school in Fall 2013 and left in March 2019, have I already exceeded the 5-year limit for the student exemption? Or does it work by calendar years rather than academic years?

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The 5-year rule works by calendar years, not academic years. So if you were first present as a student in 2013, then 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 would be your five exempt years. Starting in 2018, you would need to count days toward the substantial presence test. However, there's an important exception - you can still claim the exemption beyond 5 years if you can establish that you do not intend to reside permanently in the US and you have substantially complied with the requirements of your visa. Since you left the US and canceled your OPT, you have a strong case that you didn't intend to remain permanently, which might allow you to claim the exemption for 2018 and the partial year 2019 as well.

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Just a quick tip - make sure you're using the correct version of Form 8843 for the 2019 tax year. The IRS sometimes updates these forms, and using the wrong year's form could delay processing. Has anyone used TurboTax or other software for filing as a former international student? I'm in a similar situation.

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I tried using TurboTax for my international student filing and it was a disaster. It's really not designed for nonresident aliens or Form 8843. I ended up having to do it manually. H&R Block has slightly better options for international students but still limited.

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