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Connor Murphy

How to talk to a real IRS agent on the phone instead of the automated system?

So frustrated right now! I've been trying for the past week to get through to an actual person at the IRS about my 2023 tax return that I filed back in February. I'm still waiting on my refund and the "Where's My Refund" tool just says it's still processing. I've called the main IRS number like 15 times now and keep getting trapped in that stupid automated system. I've tried pressing different options, saying "representative" and "agent" over and over, not responding at all, and even pressing 0 repeatedly. Nothing works! The robot voice just keeps going through its script and eventually tells me they're experiencing high call volumes and hangs up. I really need to talk to an actual human being about my situation. My refund is over $3,600 and I was counting on that money for some car repairs. Does anyone know the secret to getting through to a real IRS agent on the phone? Are there specific times that are better to call or certain options that actually work? I'm losing my mind over this!

Yara Nassar

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The IRS phone system can definitely be frustrating! I've had success getting through to a real person using a specific sequence. First, call the main IRS number (800-829-1040) early in the morning - ideally right when they open at 7am Eastern time. When the automated system starts, select option 2 for "personal income tax" then option 1 for "tax return questions." When it asks for your SSN or EIN, DON'T enter anything. After it asks 2-3 times with no response, it will typically route you to a menu where you can select option 3 for "other tax questions." This often bypasses some of the automation and gets you in line for a representative. Be prepared to wait 30-60 minutes even with this method, but at least you'll be in the queue for a real person. Also, Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays tend to have slightly lower call volumes than Mondays and Fridays.

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StarGazer101

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Does this actually work? I tried something similar but still got disconnected after waiting for like 20 minutes. Also, do you need to have your tax return in front of you when you finally get through? What kind of questions do they usually ask to verify your identity?

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Yara Nassar

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Yes, this method works more often than not - I've used it several times this tax season. The key is consistency and patience. If you get disconnected, try again following the exact same steps. When you get through to a representative, they'll definitely ask for identifying information to verify your identity. Have your most recent tax return handy, as they'll ask for information like your full name, SSN, filing status, address, and possibly specific line items from your return. They might also ask verification questions about prior year returns, so having that information available is helpful too.

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Paolo Romano

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Amina Diop

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Javier Torres

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Emma Wilson

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Something else to try - call the Taxpayer Advocate Service at 877-777-4778 instead of the main IRS line. They can sometimes help if you're experiencing a financial hardship due to not receiving your refund. I did this after failing to get through on the main line and they were actually super helpful. The wait time was only about 15 minutes too!

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Connor Murphy

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Thanks for this suggestion! What counts as a "financial hardship" though? Would my situation with needing the refund for car repairs qualify? I'm worried they'll just tell me to keep waiting.

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Emma Wilson

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Financial hardship can include things like being at risk of eviction, unable to pay utilities, medical bills, or transportation needs that affect your ability to work. Car repairs would likely qualify if you need your vehicle to get to work and don't have alternative transportation. When you call, be specific about why you need the refund and what hardship you're experiencing. Explain that you've tried multiple times to reach the regular IRS line without success. They're generally understanding and will try to help if there's a legitimate need. Even if they can't resolve your issue immediately, they can often provide a timeframe or explanation that the main IRS line won't.

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QuantumLeap

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Has anyone tried calling your local IRS office? I found a number for the one near me and got through way faster than the main line. The person couldn't access all the same info as the main IRS customer service, but they were able to see that my return was being held for review and gave me the special number for that department. Worth looking up if you have a local office!

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Malik Johnson

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Most local IRS offices don't take calls directly anymore - how did you find a working number? Everything I've seen says you have to schedule an appointment through the main line (which is the whole problem).

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Another option that worked for me - try calling the IRS Practitioner Priority Service line at 866-860-4259. Technically it's supposed to be for tax professionals, but I've heard some people have success getting through there when they mention they're calling on behalf of their own return. The wait times are usually much shorter. Also, if you're still stuck after trying all these methods, consider reaching out to your local congressman's office. They have staff dedicated to helping constituents with federal agency issues like IRS problems. I know it sounds dramatic, but they can sometimes get responses from the IRS that regular taxpayers can't. Just call their local office and explain your situation - they deal with this stuff all the time during tax season. The key is persistence and trying multiple approaches. Don't give up after one method fails!

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I feel your pain, Connor! I went through the exact same nightmare last month trying to get through about my amended return. What finally worked for me was a combination of the early morning calling strategy (7am sharp) and having a backup plan ready. Here's what I learned after dozens of failed attempts: First, try the method Yara mentioned - it really does work more often than the random button mashing approach. But if that fails, immediately try calling the Practitioner Priority Service line that Elliott mentioned (866-860-4259). You don't need to lie - just say you're calling about your own return and need assistance. The worst they can do is redirect you, but the hold times are usually much shorter. Also, before you call anywhere, gather ALL your documents - not just your 2023 return, but also your 2022 return, any notices you've received, and write down specific questions. When you finally get through (and you will!), you want to make that call count. The agents are more helpful when you can be specific about what you need rather than just asking "where's my refund?" One last tip: if it's truly causing financial hardship with your car repairs, definitely call the Taxpayer Advocate Service that Emma mentioned. They have more authority to expedite cases and can sometimes get things moving that have been stuck in the system. Good luck - don't give up!

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Nathan Dell

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This is such helpful advice, Holly! I'm definitely going to try the early morning calling strategy combined with the Practitioner Priority Service line as a backup. I hadn't thought about gathering my 2022 return too - that's a great tip. One question though - when you called the Practitioner Priority Service line, did they ask you to verify that you were a tax professional or did they just help you directly? I'm a bit nervous about what to say when they answer. Also, did you have to explain why you were calling that line instead of the main number? I'm going to set my alarm for 6:50am tomorrow and try this approach. Fingers crossed! The car situation is getting pretty urgent since I need it to get to work. Thanks for taking the time to share all these details - it gives me hope that I'll finally get through to someone who can help.

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Jamal Wilson

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I went through this exact same frustration last year! Here's what finally worked for me after weeks of trying: The absolute best time to call is Tuesday or Wednesday at exactly 7:00 AM Eastern time. Call 800-829-1040 and when you hear the automated greeting, immediately press 1 for English, then 2 for personal income tax questions, then 1 for "questions about a tax return you already filed." Here's the crucial part - when it asks for your Social Security Number, enter it but enter it INCORRECTLY on purpose. After it tells you it's invalid, it will give you another chance. Enter it wrong again. On the third attempt, it should transfer you to a live representative queue instead of hanging up on you. I know it sounds weird, but this worked for me and several friends. The system seems to route you to a human when it can't verify your info automatically. Once you're connected to the actual agent, they'll ask for your real SSN and other verification info. Also, have your 2022 AND 2023 tax returns ready, along with any notices you've received. Write down your specific questions beforehand so you don't waste time once you finally get through. The whole process took me about 40 minutes of hold time, but I finally got answers about my delayed refund. The agent was actually super helpful once I reached them. Don't give up - you'll get through eventually!

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Wow, that's actually a really clever workaround! I never would have thought to intentionally enter the wrong SSN to get routed to a human. Has anyone else tried this method? I'm curious if it still works consistently or if the IRS has caught on and updated their system to prevent this. @6b519d0a2948 When you finally got through using this technique, did the agent ask why you had entered incorrect information initially, or did they just proceed with helping you once you provided the correct verification details? I want to make sure I'm prepared if they question it. Also, for anyone reading this - make sure you have your correct SSN ready to provide immediately once you reach the agent, since you'll need it for proper verification. This seems like it could be a game-changer for getting through their phone maze!

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Hazel Garcia

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I've been following this thread and wanted to share my recent experience. I was in a similar situation with a delayed refund (filed in March, still waiting) and tried several of the methods mentioned here. The early morning calling strategy combined with the incorrect SSN trick that Jamal mentioned actually worked for me! Called at 7:05 AM EST on a Wednesday, followed his exact steps, and got through to a real agent after about 25 minutes on hold. The agent didn't question why I had initially entered wrong information - they just proceeded with the standard verification questions. Turns out my return was flagged for additional review because I had some freelance income that didn't quite match what was reported. The agent was able to explain exactly what documents they needed and gave me a direct fax number to send them to. She said once they receive the documents, my refund should process within 2-3 weeks. I also want to echo what others have said about having all your documents ready. I had my 2022 and 2023 returns, W-2s, 1099s, and a list of specific questions written down. It made the conversation so much more productive than just asking "where's my refund?" Don't lose hope Connor - these methods really do work if you're persistent and patient. The key is trying different approaches and calling at the right times. Good luck with your car repairs!

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Thanks for sharing your success story, Hazel! It's really encouraging to hear that the incorrect SSN method is still working. I'm definitely going to try this approach tomorrow morning. Quick question - when you said you got a direct fax number from the agent, was that something special or do they typically provide that? I'm wondering if that's faster than mailing documents or if there are other ways to submit additional paperwork they might need. Also, did the agent give you any kind of reference number or case number to track your situation? I want to make sure I ask for that if I get through, in case I need to call back for any reason. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and tips in this thread. It's been super helpful to know I'm not the only one dealing with this frustration!

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I've been reading through all these suggestions and wanted to add one more option that worked for me recently. If you're still having trouble getting through with the other methods, try calling the IRS Identity Verification line at 800-830-5084. I know it sounds weird since your issue isn't specifically about identity verification, but I discovered this by accident when I was trying to resolve a similar refund delay. The hold times are often shorter than the main customer service line, and the agents there can sometimes access your account information and transfer you internally to the right department without you having to hang up and call back. When they answer, just explain that you've been unable to reach anyone about your delayed refund through the main line and ask if they can help or transfer you to someone who can. The worst they can do is redirect you, but I got lucky and the agent was able to see that my refund was held up due to a simple address verification issue and resolved it right there. Also, Connor, since you mentioned needing the money for car repairs - definitely emphasize the hardship aspect when you call. The agents have more tools to help when there's a legitimate financial need. You might qualify for expedited processing if you can demonstrate that the delay is causing significant hardship. Keep trying different approaches - one of them will eventually work! The IRS phone system is frustrating but not impossible to navigate with the right strategy.

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Santiago Diaz

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That's a really interesting tip about the Identity Verification line! I never would have thought to try that number for a refund issue. It makes sense though - if their hold times are shorter and the agents have similar system access, it could be a great workaround when the main lines are jammed. @8c2f9ba5ad6f Did you have to provide any special information when you called that line, or did you just explain your situation right away? I'm wondering if they ask questions specific to identity verification first before they'll help with other issues. This whole thread has been such a lifesaver - I feel like I finally have a real action plan instead of just randomly hitting buttons and hoping for the best. I'm going to try the early morning approach first with the incorrect SSN trick, and if that doesn't work, I'll definitely give this Identity Verification line a shot as my backup plan. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences and actually providing solutions instead of just complaining! This community is awesome.

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Nia Davis

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Hey Connor, I totally feel your frustration! I went through the exact same thing a few months ago and was ready to pull my hair out. After reading through all these great suggestions, I wanted to add one more trick that saved my sanity. If all the phone methods fail, try reaching out to the IRS through their online account system first at irs.gov. Sometimes you can get more detailed information about why your return is delayed, which makes your eventual phone call much more productive. Create an account if you don't have one - you can often see if there are specific issues flagging your return. Also, I noticed you filed in February and it's now April - that's actually not too unusual for processing times this year. The IRS has been running about 6-8 weeks behind on refunds that need manual review. Your $3,600 refund might have been flagged for additional verification simply due to the amount. One thing that really helped me was calling my state representative's office. I know it sounds dramatic, but they have staff who deal with IRS issues daily and can sometimes get answers when regular taxpayers can't. They don't charge anything for this service - it's part of what your taxes pay for! Just Google "[your area] congressional representative" and call their local office. Don't give up - between all these strategies, you'll definitely get through to someone. The early morning calling method combined with having all your documents ready seems to be the most reliable approach. Good luck with those car repairs!

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Olivia Clark

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This is such great advice, Nia! I hadn't thought about checking the online account system first - that's really smart to gather more specific information before calling. It would definitely help me ask better questions when I finally get through to an agent. The timeline you mentioned actually makes me feel a bit better. I was starting to panic thinking something was seriously wrong with my return, but 6-8 weeks for manual review doesn't sound too crazy given how backed up they seem to be this year. I'm definitely going to try the congressional representative route if the phone methods don't work out. I had no idea that was even an option! It's reassuring to know there are still more avenues to explore if I keep hitting dead ends. @9d61c4aa2978 Connor, I hope you're taking notes on all these amazing suggestions! This thread has turned into like a masterclass on getting through to the IRS. Between the early morning calls, the incorrect SSN trick, the backup phone numbers, and now the congressional office option, you've got a whole toolkit to work with. Thanks everyone for being so helpful and sharing your actual experiences instead of just saying "keep trying." This community really comes through when people need help!

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Oscar Murphy

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Wow, this thread has been incredibly helpful! I've been dealing with a similar situation - filed my return in early March and still waiting on a $2,800 refund. I've tried calling the main IRS line probably 20 times with no luck, just like Connor described. I'm definitely going to try the early morning strategy combined with the incorrect SSN trick that Jamal mentioned. That's such a clever workaround! I never would have thought to intentionally enter wrong information to get routed to a human. One quick question for everyone who's successfully gotten through - how long should I expect the actual conversation with the agent to take once I'm connected? I want to make sure I block out enough time and don't have to rush through my questions. I've got my 2022 and 2023 returns ready, plus a list of specific questions about my refund status. Also, has anyone had success with the Taxpayer Advocate Service route? I'm wondering if I should try that first since my situation involves needing the refund for medical expenses (which definitely qualifies as hardship). Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences and actual solutions instead of just venting! This community is amazing when people really need help navigating these frustrating government systems.

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Anna Xian

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Hey Oscar! Based on my experience getting through last month, I'd plan for at least 30-45 minutes for the actual conversation with the agent once you're connected. They're usually pretty thorough with the verification process and will want to go through your account details carefully. The agents I've spoken with have been really helpful once you finally reach them, but they do ask a lot of questions to verify your identity - full name, SSN, address, filing status, and specific line items from both your current and prior year returns. Having everything organized beforehand like you're doing is super smart. For your medical expenses situation, I'd definitely recommend trying the Taxpayer Advocate Service first at 877-777-4778. Medical hardship is exactly the kind of situation they're designed to help with, and you might get faster results than going through the regular customer service maze. Plus, their wait times are typically much shorter. If you do end up trying the early morning + incorrect SSN method, make sure to call right at 7:00 AM Eastern - even 7:05 AM can make a difference in getting through. Good luck with your refund! Medical expenses are definitely a legitimate hardship situation, so don't hesitate to emphasize that when you call.

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