How to fill out W-4 when spouse is going through Adjustment of Status - Non-Resident Alien question
Hey everyone, I need some advice about my W-4 form for my new job starting in February. I'm stuck on the "Are you or your spouse a Non-resident alien" question. I'm American, but my husband is from Brazil and we're currently in the middle of the Adjustment of Status process for his green card. I've been trying to figure out if he counts as a resident or non-resident alien for tax purposes. From what I understand, it depends on the substantial presence test. Here are his days in the US: - 2021: He didn't visit the US at all (0 days) - 2022: About 50 days total from a couple visits - 2023: He was here briefly in January (like 10 days), then moved here permanently in July after our wedding. He's been here continuously since then. When I checked the 183-day calculation, it looks like he was here before that cutoff. So does this mean he qualifies as a resident alien for tax purposes? Would I be correct in answering "No" to the "Are you or your spouse a Non-Resident Alien" question on my W-4? Really appreciate any help on this! Tax stuff is confusing enough without immigration complications thrown in.
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Katherine Harris
The Non-Resident Alien question on your W-4 can definitely be tricky when you're in the immigration process. Based on what you've shared, your husband likely qualifies as a resident alien for tax purposes under the substantial presence test. The test generally counts days as follows: all days in current year (2023), 1/3 of days from previous year (2022), and 1/6 of days from two years ago (2021). If the total is 183 days or more AND your husband was in the US for at least 31 days in 2023, he passes the test and is considered a resident alien. In your case, that would be: all days since July 2023 (approximately 150+ days) + about 17 days from 2022 (50÷3) + 0 days from 2021. This appears to exceed the 183-day threshold, especially since you mentioned he's been here continuously since July. Therefore, answering "No" to the "Are you or your spouse a Non-Resident Alien" question would likely be correct. However, there are some exceptions to the substantial presence test that might apply depending on your specific situation.
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Madison Allen
•Thanks for the explanation! One more question - does it matter that he doesn't have his green card yet? He has his work permit but we're still waiting on the actual green card approval. Does immigration status affect the tax residency status?
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Katherine Harris
•Immigration status and tax residency status are actually separate concepts. A person can be considered a resident alien for tax purposes even without having permanent residency (green card). The substantial presence test is specifically designed to determine tax residency regardless of immigration status. Having a work permit doesn't automatically make someone a resident alien for tax purposes, nor does waiting for green card approval make them a non-resident alien. It's really about the physical presence requirements we calculated.
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Joshua Wood
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Justin Evans
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Ezra Collins
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Victoria Scott
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Emily Parker
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Benjamin Johnson
Something important to consider - if your spouse is from a country that has a tax treaty with the US, they might be able to choose their tax residency status. My wife is from Canada, and we discovered she could choose to be treated as either a resident or non-resident alien for her first year here, whichever was more advantageous. You might want to check if your spouse's country has a tax treaty with the US that would allow this kind of election. It could potentially save you money depending on your situation.
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Sophia Clark
•Thanks for bringing this up! My husband is actually from a country with a tax treaty (Brazil). Do you know how we would figure out if this would be better for us? Would we need to calculate our taxes both ways?
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Benjamin Johnson
•Yes, you would want to calculate your taxes both ways to see which is more advantageous. If you file as "Married Filing Jointly," your spouse would need to be treated as a resident alien, which means all worldwide income gets reported. If you file as "Married Filing Separately," your spouse could potentially remain a non-resident alien and only report US-source income. The Brazil-US tax treaty has specific provisions that might benefit you, especially if your husband had income from Brazil this year. I'd recommend either consulting with a tax professional familiar with international taxation or using specialized tax software that handles these situations. The right choice depends on both your incomes, where they were earned, and whether there would be any foreign tax credits involved.
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Zara Perez
Don't overlook the "first year choice" election the IRS allows! If your spouse wasn't a resident alien for any part of 2022 but meets the substantial presence test for 2023, you can treat them as a resident alien for the ENTIRE year of 2023, even for the parts of the year before they met the test. This could be really helpful for your W-4 and might give you more favorable tax treatment depending on your situation. You'll need to file a statement with your tax return if you make this election.
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Daniel Rogers
•I used this first year choice when I got married to my wife who moved here mid-year. It saved us about $3,400 compared to filing separately or as a non-resident for part of the year. Definitely worth looking into!
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Lucas Lindsey
This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation but with a twist - my spouse came here on a K-1 fiancé visa in late 2023, we got married in December, and now he's adjusting status to permanent resident. From reading all these responses, it sounds like the substantial presence test would still apply to determine his tax residency status, even though he entered on a different type of visa. He's been here about 4 months total in 2023, so probably doesn't meet the 183-day threshold for this year. But I'm curious about that "first year choice" election that @Zara Perez mentioned - would that apply to K-1 visa holders who get married and adjust status? It seems like it could be really beneficial for couples in our situation where someone arrives late in the year but will clearly be a resident going forward. Has anyone else navigated the W-4 question with a K-1 to adjustment of status timeline? I want to make sure I'm filling out my work forms correctly!
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Connor Gallagher
•Welcome to the community! Your K-1 to adjustment of status situation is actually pretty common, and you're right that the substantial presence test still applies regardless of visa type. Since your spouse has only been here about 4 months in 2023, he likely wouldn't meet the 183-day threshold for this year alone. However, the "first year choice" election could definitely be beneficial for your situation! This election allows you to treat your spouse as a resident alien for the entire year of 2023, even though he only arrived partway through the year. The key requirements are that your spouse wasn't a resident in 2022, meets the substantial presence test for 2024 (which he almost certainly will since he's staying permanently), and is present in the US for at least 31 consecutive days during 2023. For your W-4, if you decide to make this election, you would answer "No" to the non-resident alien question since you'd be treating your spouse as a resident for tax purposes. This election usually makes sense for couples who want to file jointly and when the non-US spouse doesn't have significant foreign income that would create a tax burden. You'll need to attach a statement to your 2023 tax return making this election, but it can definitely simplify things going forward and potentially save you money compared to filing separately.
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Bethany Groves
I went through this exact situation last year with my husband who was adjusting status from a tourist visa overstay (don't judge - we got married and filed everything properly!). The substantial presence test calculations can be really confusing, especially when you're trying to figure out partial years. One thing that helped me was keeping a detailed calendar of exactly which days my husband was physically present in the US. The IRS counts ANY part of a day as a full day for the substantial presence test, so even if someone arrives late at night or leaves early in the morning, those count as full days. For your situation with your husband arriving permanently in July 2023, make sure you're counting ALL days from July through December 31st, plus the brief January visit. That should put you well over the threshold when combined with the weighted days from 2022. Also, just a heads up - when you eventually file your 2023 tax return, you might want to consider making the "dual-status" election if it would be more beneficial. This lets you treat part of 2023 as non-resident (January through July) and part as resident (July onwards). Sometimes this can be better than treating the entire year as resident, depending on your income situations. The good news is that once someone meets the substantial presence test, the W-4 question becomes much clearer for future years!
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Scarlett Forster
•This is really helpful, thank you! I hadn't thought about keeping a detailed calendar, but that makes total sense. I'm actually going to go back and mark every single day to make sure I have the count right. The dual-status election is interesting too - I hadn't heard of that option. Since my husband didn't have any US income in the first part of 2023 (before he moved here permanently), that might actually work out better than treating the whole year as resident status. Quick question - do you know if there's a deadline for making these elections? I want to make sure I don't miss any important filing deadlines while we're figuring out the best approach for our situation.
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