How to claim tuition expenses with no 1098-T and need Federal Filer ID
Hey everyone, I'm trying to claim my tuition expenses for 2023 and I'm hitting a roadblock. I completed a certificate program at my state university last year and now I'm working on my taxes. When I asked about getting a 1098-T form, the university told me they don't issue them for certificate programs. That seemed weird but okay. The problem is that when I'm using TurboTax, even though it says I don't necessarily need the actual 1098-T form, it still requires me to enter the Federal ID number for the school. I contacted the university administration about getting their Federal ID and they've been really unhelpful - they basically ignored my request and just said "all you need are your payment receipts." I have all my receipts showing I paid around $3,200 for the program, but TurboTax won't let me move forward without entering the school's Federal ID number. Does anyone know if the university is actually required to provide me with their Federal ID? It seems crazy that I can't claim a legitimate educational expense because they won't give me this basic information!
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Sophia Carson
The university should definitely provide you with their Federal ID (or Employer Identification Number/EIN). While they might be correct that they're not required to issue a 1098-T for certificate programs, they absolutely should give you their EIN when requested for tax purposes. The EIN is public information for any educational institution, especially a state university. You might be running into someone at the administration office who simply doesn't understand what you're asking for. Try specifically asking for their "Employer Identification Number" or "EIN" rather than "Federal ID" - sometimes the terminology matters. If they continue to refuse, you can actually look it up yourself. The EIN for most public universities can be found through a simple Google search of "[University Name] EIN" or by checking the university's website under their tax information or accounting pages. You could also check any official financial documents from the school which often have the EIN listed.
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Elijah Knight
•Is there a database or something where all school EINs are listed? Or maybe a government website that has this info? I'm having a similar issue with a technical college I attended.
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Sophia Carson
•Yes, there are a couple of ways to find EINs. The National Center for Education Statistics (NCES) maintains a database called the College Navigator where you can look up information about institutions including their EIN in many cases. You can also check the IRS Tax Exempt Organization Search tool if it's a non-profit institution. Another approach is to check the school's most recent Form 990 (for non-profits), which is public information and contains their EIN. These are often available on websites like GuideStar or ProPublica's Nonprofit Explorer.
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Brooklyn Foley
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Jay Lincoln
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Jay Lincoln
Just wanted to update everyone - I decided to try taxr.ai after reading about it here, and it actually solved my problem! I uploaded my certificate program receipts and some emails from the school admin, and the system identified that I could claim the expense under the Lifetime Learning Credit even without the 1098-T. The coolest part was that it found the university's EIN through their database and confirmed it was the correct one for tax purposes. Finished my taxes last weekend and already got my refund with the education credit included. Definitely worth checking out if you're stuck with missing documentation like I was!
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Marcus Williams
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Lily Young
•Wait how does this actually work? Do they have some special access to university phone lines or something? I've been on hold with my school's admin office literally for hours.
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Jessica Suarez
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Marcus Williams
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Jessica Suarez
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Kennedy Morrison
Quick tip: If it's a public university, check their W-9 form which is often available on their procurement or vendor relations website. Almost all universities make their W-9 available online for vendors who need to pay them, and it has their EIN right at the top. Just google "[university name] W-9" and you'll probably find it in seconds. Saved me tons of headache when dealing with a similar situation for my continuing education courses.
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Wesley Hallow
•Omg thank you! I just found my school's W-9 online exactly where you said it would be. Honestly why wouldn't the administration just tell me this instead of giving me the runaround for weeks?!
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Kennedy Morrison
•Most university staff just aren't trained well on tax questions - they get focused on their specific department responsibilities and don't think about the bigger picture. It's frustrating but pretty common across higher education. Another tip is that the procurement office or accounts payable department will almost always know where to find the W-9 and EIN info if you can't locate it online. They deal with these requests from vendors constantly.
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Justin Chang
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I think you might be eligible for the Lifetime Learning Credit even without the 1098-T? It's meant for exactly this type of continuing education and certificate programs. As long as you have proof you paid tuition to an eligible educational institution you should be able to claim it.
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Grace Thomas
•You're right about the Lifetime Learning Credit being usable for certificate programs, but TurboTax and other tax software still require you to enter the school's EIN to process the credit. The IRS technically requires the EIN of the educational institution for any education credit claim.
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