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Ana Rusula

How to apply for a tax payment extension when you can't pay by the deadline?

Just finished doing my taxes this afternoon and got hit with a $2,700 bill that I wasn't expecting. There's no way I can come up with this money before the April 15th deadline - I'll need at least 3-4 months to get this together. My tax preparer suggested I send a money order with my return, but that's not happening with my current finances. I tried to set up a payment plan on the IRS website, but they're saying it'll take 2-3 days to verify my identity before I can create an account. The deadline is coming up fast and I'm getting worried. What are my options here? Is there a way to file for an extension to pay? I can file the return on time, but coming up with nearly $3k by the 15th just isn't possible right now. Any advice would be super appreciated!

Fidel Carson

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I deal with this situation all the time with clients. Here's what you need to know: filing an extension (Form 4868) only gives you more time to FILE your return, not more time to PAY what you owe. However, there are still options! The simplest approach is to file your return on time and pay as much as you can now. You'll get hit with some penalties and interest on the unpaid amount, but they're relatively small (around 0.5% per month penalty plus interest). Still way better than not filing at all which is a much bigger penalty. Your best option is to complete the IRS payment plan application. Even though identity verification takes a few days, as long as you file your return on time, you can set up the payment plan after April 15th. The IRS offers short-term payment plans (180 days or less) with no setup fee if you apply online.

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If I file an extension but still can't pay the full amount by April 15th, will I get hit with penalties? And is there a minimum I should pay now to avoid bigger problems?

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Fidel Carson

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Filing an extension won't give you more time to pay without penalties. You'll still accrue the failure-to-pay penalty (0.5% of unpaid taxes per month) and interest regardless of whether you file an extension or not. There's no specific minimum payment required, but I recommend paying as much as you can afford by the deadline. Every dollar you pay reduces the amount subject to penalties and interest. If your budget is tight, even paying $500-1000 of the $2700 will help reduce what you'll owe in penalties over time.

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One option nobody's mentioned yet - you can pay by credit card if you're really in a bind. There's a processing fee (around 2%) but if you have a card with rewards or a 0% intro period, it might be worth it. Just make sure you can pay it off before any high interest kicks in.

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Norman Fraser

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Are there any downsides to paying taxes with a credit card? I've always been told to avoid it but never understood why.

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The main downside is the processing fee - it's about 2% of your total payment. So on a $2700 tax bill, you'd pay around $54 extra just for using a card. The IRS doesn't charge this fee directly, but they use payment processors who do. The other potential issue is falling into credit card debt. If you put taxes on a card and can't pay it off fairly quickly, you could end up paying way more in credit card interest than you would with an IRS payment plan (which typically has a lower interest rate). However, if you have a card with a 0% intro period and you're confident you can pay it off during that time, it can be a reasonable strategy.

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Kendrick Webb

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Has anyone tried filing Form 9465 (Installment Agreement Request) with their return? I heard you can mail it in with your tax forms and avoid the whole online account setup hassle.

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Hattie Carson

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Yes! I did this last year and it worked great. Just attached Form 9465 to my return, proposed a monthly payment I could afford, and got approval in about 3 weeks. Much easier than dealing with their website or phone system.

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