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Omar Fawaz

How many years should I actually hold onto old tax returns? 7 years or just 3?

I've always kept my tax returns for 7 years because that's what my parents taught me. But recently my coworker mentioned he only keeps his for 3 years and then tosses them. Now I'm totally confused about what's actually correct! I've got a stack of returns dating back to 2008 taking up space in my filing cabinet and I'd love to clear some of that out. If 3 years is actually the requirement, I've been hoarding these things for no reason. Also - is there a proper way to get rid of them? Should I run them through a shredder because of the personal info, or is it fine to just toss them in the recycling bin? I'm trying to be more environmentally conscious but also don't want my SSN floating around.

Chloe Martin

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The general IRS rule is to keep tax returns and supporting documents for 3 years from the date you filed the return. This is because the IRS typically has 3 years to assess additional tax if needed. However, there are some important exceptions: - Keep records for 6 years if you underreported your income by more than 25% - Keep records for 7 years if you file a claim for a loss from worthless securities or bad debt deduction - Keep records indefinitely if you don't file a return or file a fraudulent return - Keep property records (home purchase, improvements, etc.) until you sell the property plus 3 years As for disposal, absolutely shred them! Tax returns contain your SSN, income details, and other sensitive information. Never just recycle tax documents without shredding them first. Identity theft is a serious concern.

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Diego Rojas

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What about electronic copies? I scan all my tax stuff and keep it on my computer. Should I be doing something to protect those files as well? And do the same time limits apply?

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Chloe Martin

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For electronic copies, you should definitely password-protect those files or keep them in an encrypted folder. Many people store them on password-protected external drives or use secure cloud storage services with two-factor authentication. The same time limits apply to electronic copies as they do to paper ones. Also, if you're going all-digital, make sure you have backups! Having your tax documents in only one location (whether physical or digital) is risky.

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Don't forget state tax returns too! The retention requirements can be different from federal. Some states have longer lookback periods than the IRS. In California, for example, the statute of limitations is 4 years instead of 3. Also, if you're self-employed or have rental property, you probably want to keep those records longer than the minimum requirement. I learned this the hard way when I needed proof of depreciation from 6 years ago that I had already shredded.

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Omar Fawaz

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Oh man I didn't even think about state returns having different requirements! I'm in Pennsylvania - do you know if they have specific guidelines that differ from the federal ones?

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Pennsylvania generally follows the same 3-year rule as the federal government for most situations. However, there's no statute of limitations if the PA Department of Revenue determines there's been tax fraud or if you never filed a required return. If you have any special situations like business income, rental property, or unusual deductions, you might want to keep those records longer. When in doubt, I'd keep the supporting documents for at least 7 years, especially for anything complex.

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Is anyone else just keeping everything forever now that it's all digital? I scan everything and keep it on an encrypted external hard drive, and it barely takes up any space. Seems easier than trying to remember which tax year I can delete when.

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That's what I do! I have a "Tax Archives" folder with subfolders by year. Each January I create a new folder for the upcoming tax year. Takes like 5 minutes to set up and then I never have to worry about whether I should have kept something.

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Lourdes Fox

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Great question! I was in the same boat - had boxes of tax returns going back to the early 2000s. Here's what I learned after doing some research: The standard rule is 3 years for most situations, but there are definitely exceptions that might apply to you. If you've claimed any business losses, investment losses, or had significant deductions, you might want to keep those specific years longer. One thing I'd recommend is going through your old returns year by year and checking what deductions you claimed. If it's just standard deduction or basic itemized deductions (mortgage interest, charitable donations), then 3 years is probably fine. But if you see anything more complex, maybe keep those a bit longer. For shredding - absolutely yes! I learned this lesson when my neighbor had their identity stolen from tax documents they just threw in regular trash. Get a crosscut shredder if you don't have one already. It's worth the investment for peace of mind. Also, before you shred everything, consider scanning the returns themselves (not necessarily all the supporting documents) and keeping digital copies. They take up virtually no space and you'll have them if you ever need to reference something years later.

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CosmicCruiser

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the scanning part - do you have a recommended scanner or app that works well for tax documents? I've tried using my phone camera but sometimes the text comes out blurry, especially on older documents. Also, when you say "crosscut shredder," is that different from a regular shredder? I want to make sure I'm properly destroying these documents before disposal.

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For scanning, I've had great success with the Adobe Scan app - it's free and does a really good job with document clarity, even on older papers. It automatically detects document edges and enhances the text. For physical scanners, the Brother ADS-1700W is excellent if you're doing bulk scanning. A crosscut shredder cuts documents in two directions (both lengthwise and across), creating confetti-like pieces instead of just strips. Regular strip-cut shredders only cut lengthwise, so someone could potentially piece the strips back together. Crosscut makes reconstruction nearly impossible. Look for one that handles at least 8-10 sheets at once to make the job easier when you're shredding years of documents. One more tip - if you have a lot to shred, many UPS stores and office supply stores offer secure document shredding services. They'll do it right in front of you so you can verify everything is properly destroyed.

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Alice Coleman

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This is such a timely question - I just went through the exact same dilemma last month! I was drowning in paper tax returns going back to 2009 and finally decided to tackle the mess. After researching the IRS guidelines and talking to my CPA, here's what I learned: The 3-year rule is correct for most basic tax situations. However, your parents weren't entirely wrong either - keeping them for 7 years is the "safe" approach that covers you for most unusual circumstances. The key is knowing which category you fall into. If you've always taken the standard deduction or basic itemized deductions (mortgage interest, state taxes, charity), then 3 years is fine. But if you've ever had business income, rental properties, significant investment gains/losses, or claimed any unusual deductions, you might want to err on the side of caution and keep those specific years longer. What I did was go through each year and create two piles: "basic returns" (3 years) and "complex returns" (7 years). This let me clear out about 60% of my paperwork while still being conservative with the years that had more complicated situations. And yes, definitely shred everything! I bought a crosscut shredder specifically for this project. Tax documents have way too much personal information to just toss in recycling. It took a weekend, but the peace of mind and freed-up filing cabinet space was totally worth it.

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Avery Flores

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This is exactly the approach I wish I had taken! I just tossed everything older than 3 years without really looking at what was in each return. Now I'm second-guessing myself wondering if I had any business income or unusual deductions in those years that I should have kept longer. Your method of categorizing by complexity is brilliant - it gives you the best of both worlds. Did you find it easy to identify which returns were "complex" just by looking at them, or did you have to go through each one carefully?

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Zainab Ahmed

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@Alice Coleman It was actually pretty straightforward once I knew what to look for! The big clues are usually right on the first page of your 1040. If you see Schedule C business (income ,)Schedule D capital (gains/losses ,)Schedule E rental/royalty (income ,)or any of the less common schedules, that s'a complex "return" worth keeping longer. For basic returns, you ll'typically just see the main 1040 form and maybe Schedule A for itemized deductions mortgage (interest, charitable donations, state taxes .)Those are your safe-to-discard-after-3-years pile. One tip: if you re'unsure about a particular year, just keep it! Better to hold onto one extra box of papers than to regret shredding something important. I actually kept a few borderline "years" just because I couldn t'remember if I had sold any stocks that year or not. Don t'stress too much about what you already discarded - if they were truly just basic returns with standard/simple itemized deductions, you re'probably fine. The IRS isn t'going to come after you for routine tax situations from years ago.

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Niko Ramsey

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This thread has been so helpful! I'm in a similar situation with years of accumulated tax documents. One thing I wanted to add that I learned from my experience - if you have any amended returns (1040X forms), definitely keep those and their supporting documentation for at least 3 years from when you filed the amendment, not the original return. I had to file an amended return in 2022 for my 2019 taxes after discovering I'd missed reporting some freelance income. My tax preparer told me the 3-year clock resets from the amendment date for that specific issue. So even though my original 2019 return would normally be safe to discard after 2023, I need to keep everything related to that amendment until 2026. Also, for those going digital - I create a simple spreadsheet each year listing what documents I'm keeping and why (basic return vs. business income vs. investment activity). It takes 5 minutes but makes future purging decisions so much easier. I don't have to re-examine every document years later to remember what was in it. And definitely invest in a good crosscut shredder! I went through three cheap ones before buying a heavier-duty model. When you're shredding years of documents at once, the cheap ones overheat and jam constantly.

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Mei Wong

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Great point about amended returns! I hadn't thought about how amendments reset the clock. That spreadsheet idea is genius too - I've been meaning to get more organized with my record keeping but never knew where to start. Do you include things like the types of deductions claimed or just basic categories like "business income" vs "standard deduction"? Also totally agree on the heavy-duty shredder recommendation. I made the mistake of buying a cheap one last year and it died halfway through shredding just two years' worth of documents. The motor couldn't handle the volume and kept overheating every 10 minutes. Ended up costing more in the long run when I had to buy a better one anyway.

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Andre Dupont

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This is such a helpful discussion! I'm definitely in the "keep everything forever just in case" camp, but reading through everyone's experiences is making me realize I can probably be more strategic about it. One thing I wanted to add that my accountant mentioned - if you're self-employed or have a side business, keep those business-related tax documents for at least 7 years regardless. The IRS can look back further for business deductions, and you might need to prove expenses for depreciation calculations years later. I learned this when I had to reconstruct equipment purchases from 5 years ago for a depreciation schedule. Also, for anyone dealing with the paper-to-digital transition - I found it helpful to start with just the current year and work backwards gradually. Trying to scan and organize 10+ years of documents all at once was overwhelming and I kept putting it off. But doing one year at a time during tax season made it much more manageable. And definitely second the recommendation about keeping property records indefinitely until you sell! I almost threw out home improvement receipts from 2015 but thankfully my realtor reminded me I'd need them to calculate capital gains when I eventually sell. Those receipts could save me thousands in taxes down the road.

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Oliver Weber

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The gradual approach to digitizing old returns is such smart advice! I tried to tackle everything at once last year and got so overwhelmed I gave up halfway through. Starting with just one year at a time sounds much more doable. Your point about business records is really important too. I do some freelance work on the side and hadn't realized the lookback period might be different for those deductions. Better to be safe than sorry, especially when it comes to business expenses that could be questioned later. The property records tip is gold! I've been holding onto a shoebox full of home improvement receipts without really understanding why, but now I get it. Those could really add up over the years and significantly reduce capital gains when I eventually sell. Thanks for connecting those dots!

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Olivia Evans

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This whole thread has been incredibly eye-opening! I've been keeping everything for 7 years too, just like Omar, because that's what I was always told. But after reading everyone's experiences, I think the key takeaway is that it really depends on your specific tax situation. What I'm planning to do now is take the hybrid approach that several people mentioned - keep basic returns (standard deduction, simple itemized deductions) for 3 years, but hold onto anything with business income, significant investment activity, or unusual deductions for the full 7 years. I'm also definitely investing in a good crosscut shredder before I start this project. The security concerns people raised about identity theft are real, and it sounds like the cheap shredders just aren't worth the frustration when you're dealing with volume. One question for those who've gone digital - do you still keep paper copies of the actual tax returns themselves, or do you scan everything and go completely paperless? I'm torn between wanting to free up the physical space and being nervous about relying entirely on digital copies for something so important.

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I'm in the exact same boat as you, Olivia! Reading through all these responses has really clarified things for me. I've been holding onto tax documents from 2010 without really understanding why, just following what my parents always did. The hybrid approach makes so much sense - I'm going to go through my old returns and separate them into "simple" vs "complex" piles like Alice suggested. For the digital question, I think I'm leaning toward scanning everything but keeping the actual signed tax returns in paper form for at least the required retention period. There's something reassuring about having that original signature on file, even if everything else is digital. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and tips - this thread has saved me from either keeping way too much stuff or potentially throwing away something important! Now I just need to buy that crosscut shredder and set aside a weekend to tackle this project.

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Yara Khoury

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This has been such a valuable discussion! As someone who works with taxpayers daily, I want to emphasize a few key points that have come up: The 3-year rule is indeed the standard, but the exceptions mentioned here are crucial. I see too many people get caught off guard when they need documentation for amended returns, business expenses, or investment basis calculations years later. One thing I'd add - if you're married and file jointly, make sure both spouses are on the same page about document retention. I've seen situations where one spouse cleaned out files without realizing the other had claimed business expenses or investment losses that required longer retention periods. For those going digital, consider the "3-2-1 backup rule": 3 copies of important data, on 2 different types of media, with 1 stored offsite. Tax documents are too important to lose to a hard drive crash or house fire. And please, please shred everything properly! I've helped taxpayers deal with identity theft from improperly disposed tax documents. It's a nightmare that's completely preventable with a good crosscut shredder. The hybrid approach many of you mentioned is exactly what I recommend to clients - keep it simple for basic returns (3 years) but err on the side of caution for anything complex (7 years). Better to store a few extra boxes than to scramble for missing documentation during an audit.

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Ben Cooper

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This is exactly the kind of professional insight I was hoping for! The point about married couples being on the same page is so important - my spouse and I definitely need to have this conversation before I start purging old documents. I never considered that they might have business deductions or investment activities from years past that I'm not fully aware of. The 3-2-1 backup rule is brilliant too. I was planning to just scan everything to my computer, but you're absolutely right that tax documents are too critical to risk losing. I'm thinking cloud storage with encryption plus a backup drive stored at a different location might be the way to go. Quick question - when you mention "business expenses" requiring longer retention, does that include things like home office deductions for remote work, or are you talking about more substantial business activities? I've claimed the home office deduction for the past few years working remotely and want to make sure I'm not underestimating what I should keep.

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