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Fatima Al-Hashemi

How does an entity name change affect payroll taxes across states?

My company is planning to change its legal name in the near future, though our FEIN will remain the same. As the payroll manager, I've been tasked with figuring out if/how this change impacts our payroll operations. I've got two main questions I'm struggling with. First, can we still file and pay taxes if we haven't updated our name with all the tax agencies yet? Like, if our legal name has officially changed but the tax agencies still have us under the old name, will our tax payments and filings be accepted? Is there some kind of grace period we get for updating everything? Second, what's the most efficient way to update our name with all the different tax agencies across multiple states? We operate in like 15+ jurisdictions and honestly, the thought of having to contact each one individually is giving me a headache. There's gotta be a better way, right? Really appreciate any insights from folks who've been through this before!

I've managed payroll through two company name changes, so I can help with this! For your first question - yes, you can generally continue filing and paying taxes with your FEIN even if the name hasn't been updated with all agencies yet. Since the FEIN isn't changing, the payments will still be properly credited to your account. Most states give you about 30-45 days to report business changes, including name changes. But don't delay too long - eventually the mismatch between your legal name and what's in their system could cause notices or correspondence issues. For updating all the jurisdictions, unfortunately there's no magic one-stop solution. You'll need to contact each tax agency, but here's how to make it more efficient: - Start with the IRS (Form 8822-B) - Then your home state - Then all other states where you file - Create a spreadsheet to track your progress - Many states now allow business name updates through their online portals The good news is once you update with the state's main department of revenue/taxation, that often cascades to other agencies within that state. But yes, it's definitely a project!

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Thank you so much for your detailed response! That 30-45 day grace period info is super helpful. Do you happen to know if there's any specific documentation we should have on hand when we contact these agencies? And did you experience any hiccups with late tax notices or other issues during the transition period?

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You'll definitely want to have your Articles of Amendment or whatever legal document shows your name change officially filed with your state's Secretary of State. Most tax agencies will want a copy of this as proof. Some may also ask for a copy of your updated EIN assignment letter from the IRS showing the new name with the same EIN. Regarding hiccups, we did have a few notices come in addressed to the old company name, but they were processed fine when we paid them. The bigger issue was with some third-party administrators for benefits who got confused by the name change. I recommend creating a simple one-page document explaining the name change (with effective date and confirmation that the FEIN remains unchanged) that you can quickly send to anyone who gets confused.

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One important thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you update your state unemployment accounts too! They're often separate from the regular state tax agencies, and in my experience, they're the ones most likely to cause issues if there's a name mismatch. We had a situation where our UI account wasn't updated, which led to a mismatch in our wage reports. Ended up with unnecessary penalties that took months to resolve. I'd suggest creating a separate checklist just for UI agencies in each state where you have employees.

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That's a really good point I hadn't thought about! Did you have to file separate paperwork with each state's UI agency, or did the updates from the main tax departments carry over in some cases?

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In most states, you need to file separate paperwork with the UI agency. The information typically doesn't automatically transfer from the main tax department. Each state is different, but most have a specific form for UI account updates. California, New York, and Florida were particularly fussy about this in my experience. They wanted not just the name change documentation but also confirmation that nothing else in our business structure had changed. New Jersey actually required a phone interview to verify the change! It's definitely worth calling each UI agency directly to confirm their specific requirements rather than assuming the process is the same as with the main tax department.

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Yara Khoury

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Don't forget about local tax jurisdictions too! We operate in several cities with their own income taxes (mostly in Ohio and Pennsylvania) and they were actually the biggest pain during our name change. The state-level changes were relatively straightforward, but some of the municipalities required in-person visits or notarized forms. Cincinnati was particularly difficult because they needed proof the name change wasn't related to a merger or acquisition. One tip: if you use a payroll provider like ADP or Paychex, get them involved early. Ours was able to help with some of the updates and made sure our tax filings used the appropriate name during the transition period.

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Keisha Taylor

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This is so true. I work for a city tax department in Ohio and we absolutely need separate notification from the state filings. Many businesses miss this step and then wonder why they get notices from us. Each municipality is different!

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Sophia Russo

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Great question, Fatima! I went through this exact situation about 18 months ago when our company rebranded. Here are a few additional considerations that might help: **Documentation timing tip**: Get your Articles of Amendment filed with your state's Secretary of State office FIRST before starting the tax agency updates. Most agencies will want to see this as proof, and having it ready speeds up the whole process significantly. **Banking coordination**: Don't forget to coordinate with your bank! We had issues with our tax payment ACH transfers getting rejected because the bank account name didn't match what the tax agencies had on file during the transition period. Consider keeping your old business checks available for a few months just in case. **Worker's comp and other agencies**: Beyond just tax agencies, make sure you update with your state's worker's compensation board, department of labor, and any professional licensing boards. These often get overlooked but can cause compliance headaches later. **Create a master timeline**: I wish I'd done this from the start - create a spreadsheet with all your filing deadlines for the next 6 months across all jurisdictions. This helps you prioritize which agencies to update first based on upcoming due dates. The whole process took me about 6 weeks to fully complete across 12 states, but it was totally manageable with good organization. You've got this!

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Thank you for mentioning the banking coordination issue! That's something I hadn't even thought about yet. Did you have to update your business bank account name before dealing with the tax agencies, or were you able to handle them simultaneously? Also, when you mention keeping old business checks - how long did you actually need them? I'm trying to figure out if I should order new checks right away or wait until more of the agencies are updated.

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