How does Schedule J work for farm income averaging? Do I need to amend previous years?
So I've been working my family farm for several years now, and the last two seasons have been really good compared to our drought years before that. My tax preparer mentioned I might want to use Schedule J for farm income averaging to help with the tax hit from my big harvests. I'm confused about how this actually works though. If I use Schedule J for farm income averaging, do I have to go back and amend my previous tax returns to add this income? Or is it just a calculation on this year's return? If I don't have to amend, then it seems like I literally just fill out Schedule J on this year's return and never have to pay tax on my "excluded" income from previous years? It seems too good to be true so I'm wondering if I'm missing something. Any farmers or tax folks here who can explain this?
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Zoe Alexopoulos
Farm income averaging with Schedule J is actually quite helpful and you don't need to amend prior year returns! That's what makes it such a useful tool for farmers. Here's how it works: Schedule J lets you calculate your current year tax as if you had earned portions of your farm income evenly over the past three years. But it's entirely a calculation on your CURRENT year return - you don't go back and physically change your prior year returns. What Schedule J does is mathematically figure out what your tax would have been if you had spread out the income, but it's all done on your current year tax form. You'll pay the resulting tax with this year's return. The "averaging" is purely computational - you're not actually changing your reported income for prior years. So yes, you fill out Schedule J and attach it to your current return. But you're still paying tax on ALL your income - just potentially at lower rates because the averaging calculation can keep you from being pushed into higher tax brackets in a particularly good year.
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Jamal Carter
•Wait so does this mean the IRS is cool with me pulling my farm income from this year and pretending it was earned over 4 years just to get a lower tax bracket? This seems wild, is there a catch?
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Zoe Alexopoulos
•You're not "pretending" anything - this is an intentional provision in the tax code specifically designed for farmers because farming income can be extremely variable year to year. Congress recognized farmers might have several bad years followed by one good year, which could unfairly push them into higher tax brackets. The "catch" is that it only applies to farming income, and you need to have been in farming for the prior three years. Also, it's just an income averaging calculation - you're still paying tax on all your income, just potentially at a more favorable effective rate.
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Mei Liu
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Liam O'Donnell
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Mei Liu
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Liam O'Donnell
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AstroExplorer
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Giovanni Moretti
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Fatima Al-Farsi
•Yeah right. No way this actually works. The IRS phone system is designed to be impenetrable. I'll believe it when I see it.
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AstroExplorer
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Fatima Al-Farsi
Wanted to post a quick update - I actually tried Claimyr after responding here because I really needed answers about my Schedule J situation before filing. I was totally skeptical it would work, but I was desperate after spending 3 hours on hold myself. Signed up, put in my number, and about 2 hours later got a call connecting me to an IRS tax specialist. I was shocked it actually worked! Got clear answers about my specific farm income questions and confirmed I don't need to amend prior returns when using Schedule J. The agent even walked me through how to properly report some unusual farm income (easement payment) that I wasn't sure about. Honestly can't believe how much time I wasted trying to get through before this. Will definitely use again next time I need to actually speak to someone at the IRS.
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Dylan Cooper
Don't forget you'll need your Schedule F info from the 3 prior years to complete Schedule J correctly. I made the mistake of not having this handy and it was a huge pain trying to reconstruct everything. Also watch out for line 2 on Schedule J - you need to figure out what portion of your income actually qualifies for averaging. Not all farm income necessarily qualifies! I had some CRP payments that needed special treatment.
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Sofia Perez
•How do you determine what qualifies for averaging? I've got farm income, but also got some disaster relief payments last year. No idea if those count or not.
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Dylan Cooper
•Eligible farm income generally includes income from your farming business reported on Schedule F, plus gains from livestock sales reported on Form 4797. Disaster payments are a bit complicated - some qualify as farm income for averaging and some don't. Generally, if the disaster payment is replacing income you would have earned from your crops/livestock, it can qualify. But if it's for something else (like property damage), it might not. I'd definitely recommend having a tax professional look at your specific disaster payments. The rules around those can get pretty technical.
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Dmitry Smirnov
Why is farming treated so special in the tax code? I've had good and bad years in my construction business but nobody lets me average my income. Every year I get hit with big taxes when I have a good year.
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ElectricDreamer
•Farming has more dramatic income fluctuations than most businesses due to factors totally outside farmer control (weather disasters, crop disease, market prices tanking). Plus they feed the country. Construction has ups and downs but nothing like farming's feast or famine cycles.
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