How do I obtain a daycare's EIN for claiming childcare expenses on taxes?
I'm trying to wrap up my tax filing and need to claim childcare expenses for my daughters - first just my older one at one daycare, then both kids when we switched to a new place. I haven't received any tax forms from either childcare center (shouldn't they send something?), and when I googled how to get their EIN numbers, I got overwhelmed with information. Do I just call the daycares directly to ask for this? What exactly should I say when I call? I'm always anxious about these types of conversations and feel like I'm missing something obvious. Any help would be appreciated because I need to finish my taxes soon!
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Abigail Patel
You're doing just fine! This is a common question. Yes, you should call the daycares directly and simply ask for their Employer Identification Number (EIN) for tax purposes. Just say something like: "Hi, I'm filing my taxes and need your EIN to claim childcare expenses. Could you please provide that for me?" They deal with this request regularly during tax season, so don't worry! You'll also need to know the total amount you paid each provider during the tax year, so ask for that documentation too if you haven't been keeping track. This information goes on Form 2441 (Child and Dependent Care Expenses). Some daycares actually provide a year-end statement in January with all this information. If you have a parent portal or online account with them, check there as well - sometimes they upload tax documents rather than mailing them.
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Daniel White
•Is the EIN the same as their tax ID number? My daycare gave me something called a Tax ID but I'm not sure if that's what I need for my taxes. Also, do I need the physical address of the daycare or just the name and EIN?
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Abigail Patel
•Yes, the Tax ID and EIN are the same thing! Different providers might call it by different names (Tax ID, EIN, or Federal Employer Identification Number), but they're all referring to the same 9-digit number that you need for your tax forms. You'll need both the EIN/Tax ID and the provider's complete information including their name, address, and phone number for Form 2441. This is so the IRS can verify the legitimacy of the childcare expenses you're claiming.
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Nolan Carter
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Natalia Stone
•Does it work with other tax documents too? I have a bunch of 1099s and I'm wondering if this could help organize everything in one place?
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Tasia Synder
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Nolan Carter
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Tasia Synder
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Selena Bautista
If you're having trouble getting a response from your daycare providers about their EIN (which happens more often than you'd think), I'd recommend using Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). I tried for weeks to get this information from a previous daycare provider who had closed down, and was getting nowhere. I used Claimyr to actually get through to an IRS representative who was able to help me. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. Basically, they get you past the usual IRS phone tree nightmare so you can actually talk to a human. The IRS agent I spoke with explained my options for reporting childcare expenses even when I couldn't get the provider's EIN.
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Mohamed Anderson
•Wait, how does this actually work? The IRS never answers their phones. I've tried calling multiple times and always get the "due to high call volume" message and then they hang up.
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Ellie Perry
•Sounds like a scam. Why would I pay someone to call the IRS for me? And even if I did get through, would the IRS even give me someone else's EIN information? That seems like private business info they wouldn't share.
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Selena Bautista
•The service works by continuously calling and navigating the IRS phone system for you until they get through to a representative. When they do, they call you and connect you directly to the agent. It saves you from having to redial hundreds of times or wait on hold for hours. You're right that the IRS won't give you someone else's EIN directly. What an IRS agent can do is help you understand your options when you can't get an EIN. They told me I could still claim the credit by explaining the situation on my tax return and providing as much information as possible about the provider. In some cases, you can file Form 4442 (Inquiry Referral) to get assistance with obtaining necessary information.
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Ellie Perry
I'm actually shocked but I need to apologize about my skeptical comment earlier. I tried Claimyr after struggling for three weeks to get through to the IRS on my own. Got connected to an agent in less than 2 hours! The agent walked me through exactly what to do when a daycare provider won't give their EIN (or is no longer in business in my case). Turns out you can still claim the childcare credit even without the EIN in certain circumstances. You need to document that you made a serious effort to get the information (keep records of your calls/emails to the provider). The IRS agent explained that I should file Form 2441 with as much information as possible about the provider and attach a statement explaining my attempts to get the EIN. Saved my childcare credit worth over $2,000!
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Landon Morgan
Another option is to check your payment receipts or monthly statements from the daycare. Sometimes they print their EIN right on those documents! I totally overlooked this last year and spent days trying to contact my provider before realizing it was on every receipt they'd given me. 🤦♀️ Also, if you paid by check, your bank's online records might show the business name that the check was deposited to, which can help if you're trying to track down a provider that has closed or changed names.
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Rhett Bowman
•I didn't even think to check the receipts! I'll go through them tonight. Do you know if there's any specific place on the receipt where they typically put this information? And what if the amount I paid doesn't match exactly with what they might report (if I missed some cash payments or something)?
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Landon Morgan
•Usually it's near the bottom of the receipt with their business information, or sometimes in the header near their logo and address. It might be labeled as "Tax ID," "EIN," or "Federal ID Number." If your records don't match their totals, don't panic! It's best to report what the provider says you paid if they give you a year-end statement. If there's a significant difference, try to reconcile it by looking through your payment methods (bank statements, cancelled checks, credit card statements). Most tax software allows you to explain discrepancies if needed. Remember, the IRS might compare what you report with what the provider reports, so accuracy is important.
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Teresa Boyd
Don't feel bad, I've been through this every year for 5 years now and still get anxious! Quick tip - set a calendar reminder for early January next year to request tax info from the daycare. Most are prepared for this question in Jan/Feb but get annoyed by April when they've answered it 100 times already. Also, if you're using TurboTax, it actually has a feature where you can look up provider EINs if you used the same daycare last year. Saved me when one of our providers changed ownership and I needed the new EIN.
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Lourdes Fox
•Do you know if H&R Block has the same feature? That's what I use and I'm in the same boat as OP.
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