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Lauren Wood

How do I apply for a PTIN while still being claimed as a dependent?

I'm currently a college student (20) and my parents still claim me as a dependent on their taxes. I'm studying accounting and want to start doing some tax prep work on the side to get experience before I graduate. From what I understand, I need to get a Preparer Tax Identification Number (PTIN) from the IRS to legally prepare tax returns for others. My question is - does being claimed as a dependent affect my ability to get a PTIN? Do I need to file my own taxes independently first? I tried looking on the IRS website but couldn't find anything specific about dependents applying for PTINs. Anyone gone through this process while being a dependent?

Ellie Lopez

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You can absolutely get a PTIN while being claimed as a dependent! Your dependent status has nothing to do with your ability to register as a tax preparer. The PTIN application process is completely separate from your personal tax filing situation. To apply for a PTIN, just go to the IRS website and search for "PTIN application" or go directly to their PTIN system. You'll need to create an account, provide some personal information (SSN, address, etc.), answer some professional responsibility questions, and pay the application fee. The process is pretty straightforward. Being a dependent only means someone else is claiming certain tax benefits related to supporting you - it doesn't restrict your ability to work as a tax preparer or obtain professional credentials.

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Do you know if there's an age requirement for getting a PTIN? And also, does having a PTIN mean the OP needs to file a Schedule C for self-employment income from tax prep work?

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Ellie Lopez

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There's no specific age requirement for obtaining a PTIN. The IRS is concerned with your professional qualifications and conduct, not your age. Regarding Schedule C, yes, if you earn income from preparing tax returns, you'll need to report that income on your tax return. Since you'll be working as an independent contractor rather than an employee, you would report this income on Schedule C. Being claimed as a dependent doesn't change this requirement - you still need to report your own income even if someone else claims you as a dependent.

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Paige Cantoni

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Kylo Ren

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Wait, I've never heard of this. Can it also help with figuring out how to report income from tax prep work? I'm in a similar situation (dependent but want to start preparing taxes) and I'm confused about how self-employment taxes work.

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Does it cost money? The IRS site is free but confusing af. Not sure I want to pay for something if I can just figure it out myself...

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Paige Cantoni

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Kylo Ren

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How does this actually work? Do they just call for you or what? Seems weird that someone else could get through when I can't.

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Liam Cortez

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Sounds like a scam tbh. Why would some random service be able to get through to the IRS when nobody else can? The IRS phone system treats everyone the same.

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Jason Brewer

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They don't call for you - what they do is hold your place in line with the IRS phone system using some kind of technology. When they're about to reach an agent, you get a call to connect you directly with the IRS. You're the one actually talking to the IRS, so all your information stays private. The reason it works is because their system can navigate the IRS phone tree and stay on hold for hours without tying up your personal phone. It's basically like having someone wait in a physical line for you, then waving you over when it's your turn.

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Liam Cortez

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Savannah Vin

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if you're getting a PTIN as a student, you should also look into the Annual Filing Season Program. It's a voluntary program that gives you a Record of Completion from the IRS if you: 1) Get your PTIN 2) Take some continuing education courses 3) Agree to certain professional requirements It gives you a credential to show clients even before you become an EA or CPA, and it gives you limited representation rights before the IRS. Helped me get more clients when I was starting out!

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Mason Stone

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Is this different from becoming an Enrolled Agent? I'm confused about all these different tax preparer credentials.

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Savannah Vin

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Yes, it's completely different from becoming an Enrolled Agent. The Annual Filing Season Program is a much lower bar to entry - you just need a PTIN, some continuing education hours, and to agree to follow certain professional standards. An Enrolled Agent is a much more serious credential that requires passing a comprehensive three-part exam covering all aspects of taxation, plus a background check. EAs have unlimited practice rights before the IRS for any client matter. The AFSP only gives you limited representation rights and only for clients whose returns you prepared.

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Quick tip for when you get your PTIN - keep track of ALL expenses related to your tax prep business, even while you're a student/dependent. Things like: - PTIN registration fee - Tax software - Office supplies - Portion of internet/phone - Mileage to client meetings - Reference materials/courses These are all deductible business expenses on your Schedule C, even if your parents claim you as a dependent! I missed out on some deductions my first year because I didn't track everything properly.

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Can you still deduct business expenses if you make less than the standard deduction? I'm confused about how itemizing works when you're a dependent.

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Layla Mendes

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Business expenses on Schedule C are separate from itemizing personal deductions! Even if you're a dependent and take the standard deduction on your personal return, you can still deduct all legitimate business expenses against your self-employment income on Schedule C. So if you make $2,000 from tax prep but have $500 in business expenses, you only pay self-employment tax on the $1,500 net profit. The business deductions reduce your Schedule C income dollar-for-dollar, which is actually better than itemized deductions in most cases. Just make sure you keep good records and only deduct expenses that are truly business-related!

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Great question! I went through this exact same situation two years ago when I was a junior in college. Being claimed as a dependent has absolutely no impact on your ability to get a PTIN - they're completely separate issues. The PTIN application process is straightforward: go to the IRS PTIN website, create an account, fill out the application with your personal info (SSN, address, etc.), answer some ethics questions, and pay the fee (I think it was around $50 when I applied). You don't need to have filed your own taxes independently first. One thing to keep in mind though - once you start earning income from tax prep work, you'll need to report that income on your own tax return (Schedule C for self-employment income) even though you're still claimed as a dependent. Your parents claiming you doesn't change your obligation to report your own earnings. Also, don't forget about self-employment taxes! Even if your regular income is below the filing threshold, if you make more than $400 from self-employment (like tax prep), you'll need to pay SE taxes on that income. Good luck with your tax prep career! It's great experience for an accounting student.

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This is really helpful! I'm in a similar boat as the OP - college student, dependent, wanting to get into tax prep. Quick question about the self-employment tax thing you mentioned - do you know if there's a minimum amount you need to make before it kicks in? Like if I only do a few returns and make like $200, do I still need to worry about Schedule C and SE taxes? Also, did you find it hard to get clients when you were just starting out as a student? I'm worried people won't trust someone who's still in school to do their taxes.

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Kaiya Rivera

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@Carmella Fromis Yes, you need to file Schedule C and pay self-employment taxes if you make $400 or more from tax prep work, regardless of how few returns you do. So if you only make $200, you wouldn t'need to worry about SE taxes, but you d'still need to report that income on your regular tax return. For getting clients as a student, I started by doing returns for family friends and classmates at a discounted rate to build experience and references. I was upfront about being a student but emphasized my PTIN certification and that I was studying accounting. Many people actually liked supporting a student, and offering lower rates than established preparers helped offset their concerns. Once I had a few satisfied clients and some good reviews, it became much easier to attract new business. The key is being honest about your experience level while demonstrating your knowledge and professionalism.

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