How can I use a Donor Advised Fund to offset capital gains on stock sale?
So I'm sitting on this stock that's done really well over the years - it's now worth around $260k, and my original investment was practically nothing. I'm planning to sell it but obviously worried about the massive capital gains tax hit. I was thinking of putting about $130k into a Donor Advised Fund and then cashing out the other $130k. Would this basically make me "tax neutral" on the whole transaction? Like would the charitable deduction basically cancel out the capital gains taxes I'd have to pay? For context, my spouse and I have regular jobs with combined income of about $650k annually. We'll probably have some other capital gains this year too, but nothing major compared to this. The stock is all long-term capital gains since I've owned it for over 5 years. And I'd be donating the shares directly to the DAF rather than selling first and donating cash. Any thoughts on if this strategy works or if there are any complications I'm overlooking? I haven't sold anything yet, so I'm trying to figure out the smartest approach.
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Aisha Rahman
This is actually a really smart tax strategy! When you donate appreciated stock directly to a Donor Advised Fund, you avoid paying capital gains tax on those shares AND you get a tax deduction for the full fair market value of the donated stock. The key points to understand: - You can deduct up to 30% of your AGI for stock donations to a DAF - You don't pay any capital gains tax on the appreciated stock you donate - For the portion you sell, you'll still owe long-term capital gains tax (likely 20% federal plus any state taxes) With your income level, you should be able to use the full deduction. Based on your numbers, you'd donate $130k to the DAF, get a $130k deduction, and pay capital gains tax on the other $130k you cash out. It won't be completely tax-neutral though - the deduction offsets ordinary income (taxed at your marginal rate, probably 35%+) while the capital gains are taxed at preferential rates (20% federal plus state). You'll likely come out ahead!
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CosmicCrusader
•But won't they hit the AMT with income that high? And how does that affect the calculation? Also wondering if the wash sale rule applies here somehow?
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Aisha Rahman
•The AMT could potentially come into play, but it's less of an issue than in the past due to the 2017 tax law changes. At your income level, you should still get significant benefit from the deduction, though it might be reduced somewhat if AMT applies. It's worth running the numbers with tax software or consulting a professional for your specific situation. The wash sale rule doesn't apply here because you're donating shares, not selling at a loss and repurchasing. Wash sale rules only apply when you sell securities at a loss and buy substantially identical securities within 30 days before or after the sale.
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Ethan Brown
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Yuki Yamamoto
•How does this compare to hiring an actual CPA? Do they give specific advice or just general info? I've got a similar situation but with company stock options and RSUs so it's pretty complicated.
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Carmen Ortiz
•Did they tell you which Donor Advised Fund to use? Fidelity, Vanguard and Schwab all have them with different minimums. Also wondering if they help you calculate how much to donate vs sell to optimize?
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Ethan Brown
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Yuki Yamamoto
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AstroAdventurer
Don't forget that there are some practical considerations with DAFs beyond just the tax benefits: 1. Once you donate to a DAF, it's irrevocable - those assets are no longer yours 2. There are usually minimum initial contribution requirements ($5-25k depending on provider) 3. Some DAFs have annual fees based on assets (typically 0.6-1%) 4. There might be minimums for grants you can make from the DAF (often $50-500) 5. You'll need to select investment options for the funds while they're in the DAF Make sure you're actually planning to give to charity over time, not just using this as a pure tax play!
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Mateo Perez
•Do you happen to know which DAF provider has the lowest fees? And can I direct the investments myself or do they manage everything? I'm definitely planning on making charitable donations, but want to maximize how much actually goes to charities.
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AstroAdventurer
•Schwab Charitable and Fidelity Charitable generally have the lowest fees at around 0.6% for the first $500k (with breakpoints for larger amounts). Vanguard's is slightly higher but still competitive. For smaller accounts, Fidelity has a $100 minimum for grants while Schwab's is $50. Regarding investments, all the major DAFs let you recommend investment allocations from their menu of options - typically a range of index funds, actively managed funds, and ESG options. You can't directly manage individual stocks within the DAF, but you can select from their investment pools. They'll follow your recommendations as long as they're reasonable, though technically the DAF has final say since they legally own the assets.
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Mei Liu
Has anyone here actually calculated the exact difference between donating directly to charity vs using a DAF? I'm trying to figure out if the extra complexity is worth it for my situation.
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Liam O'Sullivan
•It really depends on your timing and tax situation. DAFs make sense if: 1) You want the tax deduction now but haven't decided on specific charities 2) You want to donate anonymously 3) You're having a high-income year and want to bunch deductions 4) You have appreciated securities to donate If you're just writing checks to charities you already know, a DAF might add unnecessary complexity and fees.
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Javier Mendoza
One thing to keep in mind with your specific situation is the timing of when you execute this strategy. Since you're planning to donate $130k worth of appreciated stock to a DAF, you'll want to make sure you have enough AGI to use the full deduction in the current tax year. With your combined income of $650k, you should be able to deduct up to 30% of AGI for appreciated stock donations to a DAF, which would be around $195k - so you're well within the limits for the $130k donation. However, I'd recommend getting the DAF set up and making the stock donation BEFORE you sell the other $130k portion. This way you can see exactly how the deduction impacts your tax liability before triggering the capital gains on the sale. Also worth noting that different brokerages have different processes for transferring appreciated securities to DAFs - some are more streamlined than others. Fidelity, Schwab, and Vanguard all make it relatively easy if you're already their customer, but it can take a few days to process the transfer. The strategy definitely works, but the exact tax savings will depend on your state taxes and whether you're subject to the 3.8% net investment income tax on the capital gains portion.
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Reina Salazar
•This is really helpful timing advice! I hadn't thought about setting up the DAF and donating the stock FIRST before selling the other portion. That makes a lot of sense to see the actual tax impact before triggering the capital gains. Quick question - when you mention the 3.8% net investment income tax, does that apply to the full $130k I'd be selling, or only the gain portion? With our income level, I'm assuming we'd be subject to it, but want to make sure I'm calculating this correctly. Also, do you know if there are any restrictions on which specific lots of stock I donate vs sell? Since I've been accumulating this position over several years, some lots have much higher gains than others. Would it make sense to donate the lots with the highest cost basis and sell the ones with lower basis to minimize the taxable gain?
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