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Fatima Al-Hashimi

Health Insurance Options for Newly Formed S Corp - Started 5 Months Ago

Hey everyone, My husband and I started a custom furniture business that really took off last year - we ended up making around $120,000 which was way more than we expected. Our tax guy recommended we form an S corporation to help with health insurance costs. We set up the S corp about 5 months ago with a 50-50 ownership split between us. It's just the two of us running the business, no other employees. Here's my situation: we haven't actually paid ourselves any salary from the business account since forming the S corp. We've just been using our personal savings to cover our living expenses. I know this probably isn't the right approach but we've been figuring things out as we go. I'm trying to figure out what to do about health insurance. Should we be looking at marketplace options? What's the best way to structure this with our S corp? Also, as a side note, I left my regular job about 7 weeks ago after a shoulder surgery and won't be returning. So that adds another wrinkle to our insurance situation. Anyone with S corp experience have suggestions while I wait to hear back from our accountant?

NeonNova

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The main benefit of an S corp for health insurance is that you can have the business pay for your health insurance premiums and deduct them as a business expense, while also excluding that amount from your taxable wages. This is a huge advantage over sole proprietorships. For this to work properly though, you need to start paying yourselves reasonable salaries through the S corp. The IRS requires S corp owners who work in the business to take a reasonable salary before taking distributions. You can't just pay yourselves through distributions to avoid payroll taxes. For health insurance, you have a few options: 1) The S corp can purchase a group health plan for you both as employees, 2) You can purchase individual plans and have the S corp reimburse you (which gets reported on your W-2 but isn't subject to FICA taxes), or 3) You can use the Marketplace, potentially with premium tax credits if you qualify. Since you mentioned your recent surgery and job change, make sure you understand how any new plan will handle pre-existing conditions and what the coverage gaps might be.

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Thanks for the detailed response! We definitely haven't been paying ourselves salaries yet - been putting everything back into the business. How quickly do we need to start paying ourselves proper salaries? And if we go with Marketplace insurance, does the S corp still reimburse us for that?

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NeonNova

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You should start paying yourselves reasonable salaries as soon as possible. The IRS doesn't have a specific timeline, but they do expect S corp owner-employees to take reasonable compensation for services rendered to the business. Yes, the S corp can reimburse you for Marketplace insurance premiums. You would purchase the policy in your own name, pay the premiums personally, and then have the S corp reimburse you. This reimbursement needs to be properly reported - it should be included in your W-2 wages (Box 1) but not subject to FICA taxes (not in Boxes 3 and 5). Your accountant can help set this up correctly.

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Does taxr.ai actually give you specific advice for your situation or is it just general information? I've been trying to figure out if I should do a group plan or individual policy reimbursement for my S corp and keep getting conflicting advice.

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I'm kinda skeptical about these online tax tools. How does it compare to just working with a CPA? My accountant charges me like $200/hr and I'm wondering if this would be more cost effective.

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It gives you specific advice based on your documents and situation. They analyze your actual business structure and financials, not just generic information. For my S corp, they compared the tax impact of group plans versus individual policy reimbursement based on my specific numbers, which was super helpful. For comparing to a CPA, I still use my accountant for filing, but taxr.ai saved me a ton of money on billable hours because I wasn't paying my CPA to research and explain everything. I had clear guidance before meeting with my accountant, which made our meetings much more efficient and focused.

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I was initially skeptical like many of you, but after trying taxr.ai I'm actually really impressed. I was completely lost about how to handle health insurance with my new S corp (started 8 months ago). I uploaded our operating agreement, prior tax returns, and info about our marketplace plan options. The analysis showed me that in our specific situation, having the company reimburse individual marketplace policies would save us about $4,300 compared to a group plan, mainly because of our income level and premium tax credit eligibility. Plus they provided templates for the reimbursement documentation my accountant said we needed for tax compliance. Definitely less stressful than trying to piece together info from random websites.

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Ava Thompson

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If you're still waiting to hear back from your accountant, you might want to try Claimyr https://claimyr.com to get direct answers from the IRS about S corp health insurance rules. I was in the same position last year - formed an S corp and was completely confused about the health insurance requirements. After trying to call the IRS business line for weeks with no luck (constant busy signals or disconnects), I used Claimyr and got through to an IRS rep in about 20 minutes. They have this system that holds your place in line and calls you when an agent is available. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent walked me through exactly how to document health insurance for S corp owners and what forms I needed. Saved me tons of stress and potentially avoided misreporting issues.

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Miguel Ramos

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How does this actually work? Doesn't the IRS just disconnect you no matter what? I've tried calling like 15 times about our S corp health insurance question.

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Yeah right, nobody gets through to the IRS. I've been trying for months to get clarification on the health insurance premium reporting for my S corp. No way this actually works.

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Ava Thompson

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It works by using a system that automatically redials the IRS until it gets through, then it holds your place in line and calls you when an agent is about to be available. It's not magic - you still need to wait for an available agent, but it handles all the busy signals and disconnects automatically. The IRS doesn't disconnect you intentionally - they're just overwhelmed with calls. The system keeps trying different IRS numbers until it finds one that puts you in the queue, then it monitors your place in line so you don't have to sit on hold for hours.

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I have to eat my words. After being super skeptical about Claimyr, I decided to try it out of desperation. I'd been trying for weeks to get answers about how to handle health insurance in my S-corp since our situation is a bit unusual. The service actually worked! Got connected to an IRS business specialist in about 40 minutes (which is miraculous considering I'd previously spent hours just getting busy signals). The agent confirmed that we needed to have the premiums paid or reimbursed by the S-corp and included on my W-2, but not subject to FICA taxes. They also explained how this should appear on our business return. Honestly saved me from making a mistake that might have cost thousands in incorrectly paid taxes or potential penalties.

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StarSailor

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you establish a health insurance plan reimbursement arrangement through your S corp in WRITING. My accountant said this was critical. We created a simple document that outlines how the S corp will reimburse health insurance premiums for employees (just my wife and me). Without this written plan, the IRS could potentially disallow your deductions during an audit. Also don't forget that the deduction for S corp health insurance is limited to your business income. If your S corp has a loss for the year, you can't deduct the premiums.

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Do you have a template for that written plan? Or did you have your accountant create it? I'm trying to figure out if this is something we can do ourselves or if we need professional help with it.

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StarSailor

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I created it myself based on some research, then had my accountant review it. It doesn't need to be super complex - mine is about 2 pages. It basically states that the corporation will reimburse employees (including shareholder-employees) for health insurance premiums up to a certain amount annually. Key elements to include: effective date, eligible employees, what expenses are covered, maximum reimbursement amounts, how/when reimbursements will be processed, and documentation requirements (employees need to submit proof of premium payments). You should also state that it's intended to comply with relevant tax regulations.

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Marketplace insurance might actually be a good option since you mentioned you left your job recently. You'd qualify for a Special Enrollment Period due to loss of coverage, so you don't have to wait for open enrollment. For our S corp, we found that getting individual marketplace plans and having the company reimburse us worked better than a group plan because we qualified for premium tax credits based on our salary (not including distributions). You do need to be careful about how you structure your salary vs distributions to maximize the benefits.

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Yara Sabbagh

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I did this with my S-corp and it works well, but make sure you understand the income reporting. The marketplace uses MAGI (modified adjusted gross income) to determine subsidies, which includes your W-2 wages plus business profits passed through to your personal return.

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