Getting State Refund But Owe Federal - No Federal Refund?
Just completed my 1040 submission with Schedule A itemization and received the preliminary calculation results. The system indicates I'm due a refund for my state filing, but shows a tax liability for federal. Does this definitively mean I won't receive a federal refund? I've triple-checked all my withholding documentation (W-2, 1099-MISC) and verified my military spouse income exclusion under MSRRA is properly applied. I'm entitled to certain tax benefits as a military family and want to ensure I'm not missing anything that could offset this federal liability.
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QuantumQuester
Yes, if you owe on your federal return, you won't get a refund. Instead you'll need to pay the amount due. • Federal and state taxes are completely separate systems • You can absolutely get a state refund while owing federal taxes • The deadline to pay any federal tax owed is April 15th, 2024 • If you don't pay by the deadline, you'll face penalties and interest You need to act quickly to either: • Verify the calculation is correct • Find additional deductions/credits you qualify for • Prepare to pay the amount owed
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Yara Nassar
To add some precision to this explanation - when your federal withholding is less than your tax liability, you owe the difference. For example, if your total federal tax liability is $5,432 but your employer only withheld $4,890, you would owe exactly $542 to the IRS. The state calculation is completely independent and based on your state's tax rates and your state withholding amounts.
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Keisha Williams
I'm wondering... could the military spouse income exclusion possibly be applied incorrectly? Sometimes tax software doesn't handle military-specific situations properly. Have you double-checked that your software is correctly implementing the Military Spouses Residency Relief Act provisions?
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Paolo Ricci
This happened to me last year after my husband's PCS. We had income from three different states and I thought I had the withholding set up correctly, but turns out I didn't account for the change in state tax rates. Ended up owing $780 federal but getting back $1,200 from the states combined. It was frustrating because I'd always gotten federal refunds before, but that's just how the math worked out that year.
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Amina Toure
Have you verified all your potential deductions and credits? Did you check if you qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit or Child Tax Credit if you have dependents? What about education credits if applicable? I had a similar situation last year and used https://taxr.ai to analyze my return. The tool identified several military-specific deductions I was missing and explained exactly how my withholding calculations were off. Have you considered using something like that to get a second opinion on your tax documents? It might help identify why you're owing federal while getting a state refund.
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Oliver Zimmermann
Is this service reliable for military families specifically? I've heard that many tax tools don't properly account for things like combat pay exclusions, moving expense deductions for PCS moves, and the complexities of multi-state taxation that military families often face.
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CosmicCommander
According to IRS Publication 3 (Armed Forces' Tax Guide), military families have several special provisions that many commercial tax preparation services miss. I used taxr.ai last year when stationed overseas and it correctly identified my Foreign Earned Income Exclusion eligibility that I wasn't aware of. Saved me over $3,000 in federal taxes!
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Natasha Volkova
Yep, this is totally normal. Fed and state taxes r separate systems. U can def get $ back from state while owing the feds. Happens to me almost every yr bc my W-4 withholding isn't set up right. NBD as long as u can pay what u owe by the deadline. Just make sure u file on time even if u can't pay the full amount right away - the failure-to-file penalty is way worse than the failure-to-pay penalty.
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Javier Torres
This is similar to what happened when I moved from California to Texas. My federal withholding wasn't adjusted properly to account for the lack of state income tax in Texas. It was like comparing apples to oranges - my old withholding was calibrated for a high-tax state, and I didn't adjust it when moving to a no-income-tax state.
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Emma Davis
What's the most efficient way to adjust withholding to prevent this situation next year? Should one submit a new W-4 immediately or wait until the beginning of the next calendar year? Does the IRS withholding calculator account for military-specific situations?
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Malik Johnson
This is like having two separate bank accounts - one can be overdrawn while the other has a positive balance. Your federal and state tax situations are completely independent. If you think something's wrong with your federal calculation, it's worth getting clarity directly from the IRS. I've found that calling them is like trying to get front-row concert tickets - nearly impossible without help. I used Claimyr (https://www.claimyr.com) last tax season when I had questions about my military moving expense deductions. It's like having a fast-pass at a theme park - got me through to an actual IRS agent in about 15 minutes instead of spending hours on hold.
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Isabella Ferreira
I'm always wary of services that claim to get you through to the IRS quickly. Doesn't the IRS eventually answer if you just wait long enough? I've heard mixed reviews about these call services - sometimes they work, sometimes you're just paying for something you could do yourself with enough patience.
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Ravi Sharma
Have you looked at your actual tax withholding on your W-2? Is it possible your employer didn't withhold enough federal taxes throughout the year? Did you have any major life changes that affected your tax situation? Sometimes military families face unique circumstances with moves and multiple state residencies that can complicate withholding calculations, wouldn't you agree?
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NebulaNomad
I'm so sorry you're facing this! It's definitely stressful to owe money when you were expecting a refund. Check if you qualify for an IRS payment plan - they offer reasonable monthly payments if you can't pay the full amount right away. The online application is super easy and approval is usually immediate for amounts under $50,000. I've used it twice and it saved me so much stress! You'll still pay some interest, but it's WAY better than putting it on a credit card.
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Freya Thomsen
Been there! Last year I thought I'd get both federal and state refunds but ended up owing federal. My issue was that I had some side gig income without tax withholding. For military families, it's also worth checking if you claimed all possible deductions like unreimbursed moving expenses for PCS moves (if before 2018), certain uniform expenses, or travel expenses for reservists. The military tax rules are different from civilian ones in many ways.
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Omar Fawaz
To clarify an important point: your federal AGI (Adjusted Gross Income) affects your state taxes, but your state tax liability has zero impact on your federal obligation. If your tax software shows you owe federal taxes, that means your withholding and/or estimated tax payments were insufficient to cover your tax liability for the year. The calculation is: Total Tax Liability minus Total Payments (withholding + estimated payments) = Amount Due or Refund.
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