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Anthony Young

Filing 2020 taxes by mail in 2025 - Do I need to include my original W2 form?

I've been putting off filing my 2020 taxes forever (I know, I know) and I'm finally getting around to it now. I'm seriously late, but better now than never I guess? I'm planning to mail in my tax return since it's been so long and I've heard that's what you're supposed to do for really late filings. My question is - do I need to include my actual W2 form with the paper return? Or just fill out all the info from the W2 onto the 1040 form? I have my original W2 from my employer but wasn't sure if I should send the actual document or just use the numbers. Also, will I get hit with a ton of penalties for filing this late? Any help would be really appreciated.

Yes, when filing a paper tax return, you need to attach Copy B of your W-2 form to your return. The IRS requires this for paper filings so they can verify the income and withholding information you report. Don't just copy the information - they need the actual form. As for filing 2020 taxes in 2025, you're definitely late, but you're still eligible to receive any refund owed to you as long as you file within 3 years of the original due date. However, that window has passed for 2020 taxes (originally due April 15, 2021). While you should still file to get compliant with the IRS, you likely won't receive any refund that might have been due.

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Admin_Masters

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What about penalties? Are those going to be really bad after 4+ years of not filing?

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If you owe taxes, yes, there will be penalties. The failure-to-file penalty is usually 5% of the unpaid tax for each month your return is late, up to a maximum of 25%. Plus, there's a failure-to-pay penalty of 0.5% per month and interest that compounds daily. After this many years, these can add up significantly. If you're due a refund, there typically aren't penalties for filing late, but as I mentioned, you've likely lost the ability to claim that refund due to the 3-year limitation period.

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Don't forget to make copies of EVERYTHING before you mail it in! I filed some back taxes last year and the IRS somehow lost my W-2s in processing. Took months to sort out because I didn't keep copies. Also, definitely send it certified mail with tracking so you have proof of when you sent it.

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Anthony Young

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Good point about the certified mail! Should I also do return receipt? And how long do you think processing will take for a 5-year-old return?

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Yes, definitely do return receipt! It's worth the extra few dollars for the peace of mind. For processing time, my 3-year-late return took about 4 months to process completely, so I'd expect at least that long for a 5-year-old return. The IRS is still working through backlogs from the pandemic years, so everything is taking longer than it used to.

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Chris King

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Have you thought about seeing if you qualify for the IRS Free File program or trying to e-file? I know when you're many years behind it seems like paper is the only option, but some tax software can still e-file returns from 2020.

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Rachel Clark

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This is incorrect. You cannot e-file tax returns from 2020 in 2025. The IRS e-file system only accepts returns for the current tax year and two years prior. For 2020 or earlier, paper filing is the only option now.

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Zoe Gonzalez

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Just want to echo what others have said about making copies and using certified mail - this is absolutely critical when filing old returns! I made the mistake of not doing this with a 2019 return I filed late, and when the IRS claimed they never received it, I had no proof of mailing. One additional tip: consider including a cover letter with your return explaining that this is a late filing for 2020 and briefly stating why you're filing late. While it won't eliminate penalties, it can sometimes help with penalty abatement requests later if you have reasonable cause. Also, if you owe money, try to pay as much as you can when you file - even a partial payment will stop the failure-to-pay penalty from accruing on that portion. The IRS is generally more willing to work with taxpayers who are making a good faith effort to get compliant, so filing now (even though it's very late) is definitely better than continuing to avoid it.

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Derek Olson

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This is really solid advice about the cover letter! I hadn't thought about explaining the situation upfront. Do you think it matters what specific reason you give for filing late, or should you keep it general? I'm worried about saying the wrong thing and making my situation worse. Also, when you mention penalty abatement - is that something you request at the time of filing or do you have to wait until after they process the return and assess the penalties?

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