Do Panhandlers need to report the money they get outside a local Walmart for tax purposes?
I've been noticing the same guy panhandling outside my local Walmart for months now. Some days he's out there for like 8 hours straight. Yesterday I saw him counting what looked like a decent stack of cash before getting into a pretty nice car. It got me wondering - does he actually have to report that money to the IRS? I mean, technically it's income right? How is that any different from the neighborhood kid who mows lawns for cash or people who go door to door shoveling driveways after a snowstorm? Those people are providing a service I guess, but they're still getting cash that probably doesn't get reported. Just curious how the tax laws work for something like panhandling where there's no actual service being provided.
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Nia Jackson
Yes, technically all income is taxable regardless of source - even panhandling. The IRS expects everyone to report all income, including cash received from any activity, legal or otherwise. The tax code defines gross income very broadly as "all income from whatever source derived." That said, enforcement is another matter entirely. For someone doing lawn work or snow shoveling, they're theoretically supposed to report that income just like a panhandler should. The difference isn't in the tax obligation but in the practical aspects. People providing services might be considered self-employed and could deduct business expenses, while panhandling might be classified as "other income" without associated deductions.
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Mateo Hernandez
•But how would the IRS even know how much a panhandler makes? It's not like anyone's giving them a receipt or they're tracking their "earnings" with an app. Seems impossible to enforce.
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Nia Jackson
•You're absolutely right that it's extremely difficult for the IRS to track cash income that isn't reported through formal channels. The tax system largely operates on voluntary compliance - the expectation that citizens will honestly report their income. In practice, people in cash-based informal economies often fly under the radar unless they make large purchases or deposits that trigger bank reporting requirements. If someone is living entirely on small cash transactions and not making substantial deposits, the practical risk of detection is quite low.
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CosmicCruiser
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Aisha Khan
•Did it actually help with figuring out what counts as a "gift" vs "income" for something like panhandling? I've always wondered about that distinction.
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Ethan Taylor
•Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. How exactly does an AI tool determine what's reportable income for something as unofficial as panhandling? Does it actually have specific rules for that scenario or is it just applying general tax principles?
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CosmicCruiser
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Ethan Taylor
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Yuki Ito
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QuantumQuasar
Former tax preparer here. There's actually a section on the 1040 for "other income" where you'd report this kind of thing. Technically, ANY income from ANY source is taxable unless specifically exempted by law. That said, there's a practical reality here - the IRS has limited resources and generally focuses enforcement on higher-dollar situations. People working informal cash jobs like lawn mowing, snow shoveling, or even panhandling fall into a gray area not because the law is unclear (it's very clear - report all income), but because practical enforcement is difficult.
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Zoe Papanikolaou
•What about the whole "gifts under $15,000 aren't taxable" thing? Couldn't someone argue that each dollar they get while panhandling is a small gift?
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QuantumQuasar
•That's an interesting point about gifts! The gift tax exclusion (which is actually $16,000 for 2023 and $17,000 for 2024) applies to the giver, not the recipient. And you're right that small amounts given to panhandlers could potentially be classified as gifts rather than income. The key distinction the IRS would look at is whether there's an expectation of service or product in return. In pure panhandling (just asking for money), there's a stronger case for the gift argument. However, if the person is offering something in return - even something small like a blessing or a song - the IRS could argue it's payment for a service and therefore income.
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Jamal Wilson
Realistically though, most panhandlers are probably below the filing threshold anyway. You don't have to file taxes unless you make above a certain amount ($12,950 for a single person in 2023). Plus many homeless panhandlers don't have permanent addresses or documentation needed to file taxes.
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Mei Lin
•That's actually a good point about the filing threshold. But the guy OP described getting into a nice car might be making more than we think! I read an article once about professional panhandlers in cities making $60k+ annually all in cash.
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Miranda Singer
The IRS actually has some guidance on this in Publication 525 - they specifically mention that income from illegal activities (like drug dealing) must be reported, so panhandling (which is legal in most places) would definitely fall under taxable income. The tricky part is that many people think panhandling receipts are "gifts" but the IRS looks at the regularity and method. If someone is systematically asking for money in public spaces as their primary income source, it's generally considered business income rather than gifts. What's interesting is that if this person is making substantial amounts, they might also owe self-employment tax on top of regular income tax. The car situation you mentioned could actually trigger some red flags if they're making large purchases or deposits without reporting corresponding income. The IRS has algorithms that look for lifestyle inconsistencies with reported income.
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Jade Santiago
•This is really helpful - I had no idea about the self-employment tax aspect! That's a great point about the lifestyle inconsistencies too. If someone is driving a nice car but reporting little to no income, that could definitely raise red flags during an audit. I'm curious though - how would the IRS even discover these inconsistencies unless the person was doing something obvious like making large bank deposits? Are there other ways they track cash-based income that people might not realize?
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