Do I qualify for Real Estate Professional Status (REPS) if I'm a full-time realtor with managed properties?
I've been working as a full-time realtor for about 5 years now, and I also have a small rental portfolio with around 18 units total. I personally manage 3 of those units myself (they're in the same city where I live), but the other 15 are in different states and I have property management companies handling those. Based on what I understand about the Real Estate Professional Status requirements for tax purposes, I think I should qualify since my primary job is already in real estate as a realtor, plus I'm actively managing a few of my own rental properties. My tax guy is telling me that I don't qualify for REPS because the majority of my rental properties aren't directly managed by me and are instead handled by property management companies. He says the 3 properties I self-manage don't meet the hours requirement on their own. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? Do you think I qualify for Real Estate Professional Status or not? Would really appreciate some clarity on this because it makes a big difference for my 2025 tax filing!
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Keisha Taylor
You're dealing with a somewhat complex tax situation that trips up many real estate professionals. The IRS has very specific criteria for qualifying for Real Estate Professional Status (REPS). To qualify, you must: 1) Spend more than 750 hours per year in real estate activities 2) Spend more than 50% of your total working time in real estate businesses 3) Materially participate in each rental property activity (or treat all rental activities as a single activity by election) As a full-time realtor, you likely meet criteria #1 and #2. The issue is with #3 - material participation. Your accountant is partially right - properties managed by a property manager typically don't count toward your material participation hours. However, the key here is that you can make an election to treat all rental activities as a single activity. With this election, you could potentially combine your self-managed properties with your realtor activities to meet the material participation test for all properties collectively. It's not simply about counting hours spent on each individual property.
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Paolo Longo
•Wait I'm confused on this. I thought the hours spent as a realtor don't count toward the 750 hours needed for rental properties? Don't those have to be separate because being a realtor is a different trade/business than being a landlord?
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Keisha Taylor
•You're asking an excellent question that many people misunderstand. You're right that there's a distinction between different real estate activities. The 750+ hours and the 50%+ of your working time must be spent in "real property trades or businesses" - this includes being a realtor, developer, broker, etc. These hours qualify you as a "real estate professional." However, to actually use REPS to offset rental losses against other income, you must additionally "materially participate" in your rental activities specifically. This is where the confusion often happens. Your realtor hours don't count toward material participation in your rental activities unless you make an election to group all your real estate activities together.
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Malik Jackson
Former IRS agent here. Your accountant is taking the safer approach, but he's not necessarily right. The key with REPS is documentation. You need to show: 1. You worked at least 750 hours in real estate activities 2. More than half your working time was in real estate 3. You materially participated in rental activities Being a full-time realtor likely satisfies #1 and #2. For #3, you can make an election to treat all rental activities as one activity. This means you only need to materially participate in your rental activities as a whole, not each individual property. Keep a detailed log of your time: showings, closings, client meetings, rental management, etc. Without documentation, you won't win if audited.
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Yara Khoury
•Thanks for this info! So to be clear, my hours working as a realtor (showing houses, meeting clients, etc.) count toward the 750 hours in real estate activities, but don't count toward material participation in my rental properties - that's a separate test, right? And for the material participation test, can I count time spent researching new rental properties, reviewing monthly statements from my property managers, making decisions about repairs/improvements, etc.?
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Malik Jackson
•Yes, your realtor hours count toward the 750 hours that qualify you as a real estate professional. This is the first hurdle to clear. For material participation in your rental activities, you can absolutely count time spent researching properties, reviewing statements, making decisions on repairs, communicating with property managers, and similar activities. The key is contemporaneous documentation - keep a detailed log of these activities as you do them, not reconstructed later. With the grouping election (made on your tax return), you can combine all these rental activity hours together rather than having to materially participate in each property individually. This election can be very beneficial in your situation.
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Isabella Costa
I think most people misunderstand REPS. The key issue is "material participation" in rental activities. Being a realtor counts for the 750 hours but NOT for material participation in your rentals. The exception is if you make a grouping election as others mentioned. Your CPA should know this but many don't understand real estate tax rules well. Just FYI - I got audited on this exact issue in 2023. The IRS was looking specifically at REPS claims. Make sure you have a detailed time log showing hours for EACH activity. After-the-fact estimates won't cut it in an audit.
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StarSurfer
•Which form do you use to make the grouping election? Is it something specific or just a statement attached to your return?
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Brian Downey
Based on my experience dealing with REPS qualifications, your tax preparer may be being overly conservative. As a full-time realtor, you likely already meet the first two REPS requirements (750+ hours and 50%+ of working time in real estate). The critical piece is making the grouping election to treat all your rental activities as one activity. This election is made by attaching a statement to your tax return - there's no specific IRS form for it. The statement should clearly indicate you're electing to group all rental real estate activities under IRC Section 469(c)(7)(A). With this election, you can combine your time spent on the 3 self-managed properties with time spent overseeing the other 15 properties (reviewing reports, making decisions, communicating with property managers, etc.) to meet the material participation test. I'd recommend getting a second opinion from a CPA who specializes in real estate taxation. Many general tax preparers aren't familiar with the nuances of REPS, especially the grouping election strategy. The potential tax savings make it worth exploring further. Also, start keeping detailed time logs NOW for 2025 - document every hour spent on rental activities, no matter how small. This contemporaneous documentation is crucial if you're ever audited.
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Mason Stone
•This is really helpful information! I'm in a similar situation as the original poster - working as a realtor but also have some rental properties. One thing I'm still unclear on though: when you make the grouping election, does that election apply permanently going forward, or can you make it year by year? Also, if you group all your rental activities together, are there any downsides to doing this election that people should be aware of before making this decision?
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