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Manny Lark

Is rental income from a single family home considered QBI for tax deduction purposes?

So I've been managing a single family rental home for about 3 years now. Nothing fancy, just a basic 3 bedroom in the suburbs that I bought when I moved for work. I list it on my Schedule E each year and I'm definitely not a real estate professional (I work full-time as a systems analyst). I'm working on my tax planning for next year and trying to figure out if the rental income qualifies as Qualified Business Income (QBI) which would mean I could take the QBI deduction. Everything I've read online says rental income doesn't qualify for QBI unless you're a real estate professional, but my accountant insists it does qualify. I'm totally confused because they're contradicting each other. My accountant has been doing my taxes for years and I trust him, but literally every tax article I've read says the opposite. Has anyone dealt with this specific situation? Does regular Schedule E rental income from a single family home qualify as QBI when you're not a real estate professional?

Rita Jacobs

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This is a common point of confusion! Your online research is generally correct - traditional rental activities reported on Schedule E typically don't qualify as QBI unless certain conditions are met. For rental income to qualify as QBI, it needs to rise to the level of a "trade or business" under Section 162 of the tax code. Most passive rental activities don't meet this standard. However, there are important exceptions: The IRS created a safe harbor (Revenue Procedure 2019-38) where rental real estate can qualify as a trade or business for QBI purposes if you: maintain separate books for each property, perform 250+ hours of rental services annually, and keep contemporaneous records of these activities. But this typically requires more involvement than a single rental property with minimal management. Another exception is if the rental is to a business you own (self-rental), but that doesn't sound like your situation. Your accountant might be applying one of these exceptions, or they might be taking an aggressive position. I'd recommend asking them specifically which provision they're using to qualify your rental as QBI.

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Manny Lark

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Thanks for the detailed explanation! That makes a lot more sense now. I definitely don't put 250+ hours into managing this property - it's probably less than 50 hours a year total. The tenant is great and I have a handyman who handles most issues. Do you think I should get a second opinion? My accountant is usually pretty conservative with tax positions so I'm surprised he'd take an aggressive stance on this.

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Rita Jacobs

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I definitely recommend asking your accountant to explain their reasoning. It's possible they have information about your specific situation that would qualify your rental under one of the exceptions, or they may be applying a different interpretation of the rules. If your accountant can't provide a clear explanation that aligns with current tax law, then seeking a second opinion would be wise. Tax positions need to have "substantial authority" to avoid penalties if challenged, so understanding the basis for claiming the QBI deduction is important.

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Something important no one has mentioned yet - there's also the "self-rental rule" where if you rent property to a business you materially participate in (like your own S-corp or partnership), that rental income CAN qualify as QBI even if you're not a real estate professional. This is a common legitimate way rental income qualifies for QBI. Maybe your accountant is thinking of this rule?

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Manny Lark

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That's really interesting! But no, I'm just renting to regular tenants, not to a business I own. The property is in another state from where I live now, so there's definitely no connection to my regular employment. Based on everyone's feedback, I'm going to have a conversation with my accountant. I suspect he might be confused about the specific rules around QBI for rentals since they did change a few years ago.

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Good plan. One more thing to consider - the QBI rules are still relatively new and there have been various updates and clarifications since they were introduced with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Some accountants haven't fully caught up with all the detailed guidance the IRS has issued on these topics. When you talk with your accountant, ask specifically which provision they're using to classify your rental as QBI-eligible. If they can't cite a specific rule or exception that applies to your situation, that's a red flag.

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Demi Hall

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Slightly off topic but related - I have 2 rental properties and use a property management company. Do the hours the property management company spends count toward the 250 hour requirement for the safe harbor? Or only hours I personally spend?

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Rita Jacobs

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For the 250+ hour safe harbor, you can count hours spent by you, employees, contractors, and property management companies working on your behalf. So yes, your property management company's time would count toward the 250 hours. However, you would need documentation of those hours - most property management companies don't track their time in sufficient detail to satisfy the IRS requirements for the safe harbor. You'd need contemporaneous records showing dates, hours, and descriptions of all services performed.

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Micah Trail

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I'm dealing with a similar situation with my rental property and wanted to share what I learned after researching this extensively. The key issue is that regular rental income from a single-family home typically does NOT qualify as QBI unless specific conditions are met. Based on my research and conversations with multiple tax professionals, here are the main ways rental income can qualify for QBI: 1. **Real Estate Professional Status** - You need to spend 750+ hours annually in real estate activities and more than half your working time in real estate trades/businesses. 2. **Safe Harbor Rule (Rev. Proc. 2019-38)** - You must spend 250+ hours annually on rental services, maintain separate books for each property, and keep detailed contemporaneous records. 3. **Self-Rental Exception** - When you rent to a business you materially participate in. 4. **Triple Net Lease Exception** - For certain commercial lease arrangements. Since you mentioned spending less than 50 hours annually on your property, none of these exceptions would apply to your situation. Your accountant may be applying outdated guidance or misunderstanding the current rules. I'd strongly recommend getting the specific tax code section your accountant is relying on. The QBI deduction is heavily scrutinized by the IRS, so you want to make sure any position taken has solid legal backing.

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Amara Torres

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive breakdown I was looking for! Thank you for laying out all the specific exceptions so clearly. It really helps to see them all in one place. Given that I'm nowhere near meeting any of these requirements (especially the 250+ hour safe harbor), I'm now confident that my rental income shouldn't qualify for QBI. I'm definitely going to ask my accountant which specific provision he thinks applies to my situation. Has anyone here had experience with the IRS challenging QBI deductions on rental properties? I'm wondering how aggressive they are about auditing these claims, especially if the position doesn't have solid backing.

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