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Oliver Schulz

Do I need to file taxes as a student with a 401k plan? Parent dependent question

Hey everyone, I could really use some advice! I'm 19, going to school full-time and working part-time while still being claimed as a dependent by my parents. My job offers this LLC Roth 401k plan that I'm interested in starting, but here's my situation: I don't currently make enough income to be required to file my own taxes. My family qualifies as low-income, so I get substantial financial aid for school. I'd prefer not to start filing separately until after graduation if possible, since it complicates my FAFSA application. But I've heard starting retirement savings early is super important. So my questions: If I start contributing to this 401k but still don't earn enough to normally file taxes, would the 401k contributions force me to file anyway? Can my parents still claim me and my earnings on their taxes without it changing their refund or amount owed? Also, if I do go forward with this, what's a smart contribution percentage? My employer matches 0.5% up to 6% of my contributions. Any advice would be appreciated!!

Great question about planning for your future while navigating the tax implications! You're absolutely right that starting retirement savings early is one of the smartest financial moves you can make. The good news is that contributing to a 401k doesn't automatically require you to file taxes. The filing requirement is based on your income level, not whether you have a retirement account. For 2025, if you're a dependent under 65, you generally need to file if your earned income exceeds $13,850 or if your unearned income exceeds $1,250. Your parents can still claim you as a dependent if you meet the qualifying child criteria (under 19 or full-time student under 24, living with them more than half the year, and they provide more than half your support). Your 401k contributions won't affect their ability to claim you or change their tax liability. Regarding contribution percentage - since your employer matches 0.5% up to 6%, I'd recommend contributing at least 6% to get the full match if you can afford it. It's essentially free money! If that's too much for your budget, start with whatever you can and gradually increase it as your income grows.

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Thanks, this is helpful! But I'm confused about one thing - will the 401k contributions reduce my taxable income for the dependent filing threshold? Like if I make just over the filing threshold but put enough in the 401k, could that bring me back under so I don't have to file?

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Yes, traditional 401k contributions (not Roth) would reduce your taxable income. So if you were just over the filing threshold, contributing to a traditional 401k could potentially bring you under that threshold. However, your post mentions an "LLC Roth 401k plan" - Roth contributions are after-tax, meaning they don't reduce your current taxable income. They give you tax-free growth and withdrawals in retirement instead. So Roth contributions wouldn't help you stay under the filing threshold.

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Emma Wilson

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That's interesting! But how does it work with the FAFSA situation? Does it actually help with figuring out the financial aid impact too? That's my biggest concern with starting a 401k while in school.

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Malik Davis

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Malik Davis

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Ravi Gupta

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GalacticGuru

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - if your income is low enough to not require filing, you might want to consider an IRA instead of the 401k. Specifically, look at the Saver's Credit (also called Retirement Savings Contributions Credit). If your AGI is below certain thresholds, you could get a tax credit for retirement contributions. The catch is you DO need to file taxes to claim this credit, but it might be worth it financially. Run the numbers both ways to see if the credit would be more valuable than the simplicity of not filing.

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Oliver Schulz

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Thanks for bringing this up! Would the Saver's Credit still apply if I'm being claimed as a dependent though? I thought I read somewhere that dependents aren't eligible.

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You're absolutely right - I should have clarified that important detail. Dependents are NOT eligible for the Saver's Credit, regardless of their income level. So in your specific situation, this wouldn't apply while you're being claimed by your parents. Once you're no longer a dependent, definitely look into this credit as it could give you a nice tax break for your retirement contributions. But for now, your original approach makes sense - contribute to get that employer match without complicating your tax situation.

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Omar Fawaz

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In your situation, I'd definitely recommend contributing at least the 6% to get the full employer match. Even though it's only a 0.5% match (which is admittedly on the lower side), it's still literally free money. Think of it this way - an immediate 0.5% return on your investment before it even starts growing! Also, since you mentioned it's a Roth 401k, you're paying taxes upfront, but all the growth will be tax-free when you withdraw in retirement. At your age, that's potentially 40+ years of tax-free growth, which is HUGE.

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The match is definitely worth taking advantage of, but I think OP should clarify what they mean by "matches .5% up to 6%". That wording is confusing. Usually employers say something like "50% match up to 6% of your salary" meaning if you put in 6%, they add 3%. A ".5% match up to 6%" would be extremely low if literal.

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