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Giovanni Mancini

Confused about the IDENTIFYING NUMBER box on Form 56, Notice of fiduciary relationship

I'm currently filling out Form 56 for my late uncle who passed away without a will. The form seems straightforward enough, and I've selected option 1D (Fiduciary of an intestate estate) since there's no court involvement. My issue is with the IDENTIFYING NUMBER box on the form. I've looked everywhere online but can't find clear instructions about what number goes there. I already entered my uncle's Social Security number in the designated SSN field, but I'm confused about whether I need to put the same SS# in the IDENTIFYING NUMBER box as well, or if I should leave it blank. Has anyone here dealt with Form 56 before and knows what's supposed to go in that IDENTIFYING NUMBER field? I feel like this should be straightforward, but the IRS instructions aren't clear to me. I'm sure many of you have had to handle this when managing affairs for deceased family members.

The IDENTIFYING NUMBER box on Form 56 is actually referring to your identifier as the fiduciary, not the deceased person's information. Since you're handling an intestate estate as an individual (rather than as a business entity), you would put your own Social Security Number in that box. The form is designed to establish you as the fiduciary responsible for the tax matters of the deceased, so the IRS needs to identify both parties - the deceased (using their SSN in the taxpayer section) and you as the fiduciary (using your SSN in the identifying number section). This establishes the legal relationship between you and the deceased's tax matters, allowing you to act on their behalf with the IRS.

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Wait, so I need to put MY Social Security Number in the IDENTIFYING NUMBER box? That makes sense but I was worried about putting my personal info down since I wasn't sure. The IRS instructions really could be clearer about this! Does this mean I'll be personally liable for their tax issues?

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You're right that you'll put your SSN in the IDENTIFYING NUMBER box. This doesn't automatically make you personally liable for the deceased's tax debts - it simply identifies you as the person authorized to handle their tax matters. Your liability is generally limited to the assets in the estate. Being a fiduciary means you have a responsibility to handle the estate properly, including paying any taxes due from estate assets before distributing to heirs. If you follow the proper procedures, you typically won't be personally responsible beyond the estate's value.

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Zainab Ismail

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Form 56 can be tricky! Just want to add - make sure you also file Form 1040 for the deceased for their final tax year. As the fiduciary, you'll sign it with "Filing as surviving spouse" or "Filing as personal representative" after your signature. For estates with significant assets, you might need Form 1041 too (Estate Income Tax Return). Don't miss these deadlines or it can get messy fast. Good luck!

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What's the threshold for "significant assets" that would require Form 1041? My aunt's estate is pretty small - just a checking account and some personal belongings worth maybe $30,000 total.

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Zainab Ismail

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For an estate with $30,000, you probably don't need Form 1041 unless the assets are generating income after death. The key trigger for Form 1041 is if the estate generates more than $600 in income during the administration period (like interest, dividends, rental income, etc.). So if your aunt just had a checking account with minimal interest and personal belongings, you likely only need to file her final 1040 and the Form 56 to establish yourself as the fiduciary. But if she had investments that continued earning income after her death, you might need the 1041 even for a smaller estate.

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Heads up on Form 56 - I filled one out last year and discovered later that if multiple people are sharing fiduciary responsibility (like if you and a sibling are both handling the estate), EACH person needs to file a separate Form 56 with their own SSN as the identifying number. The IRS doesn't have a good way to list multiple fiduciaries on one form.

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Thanks for bringing this up! It's just me handling everything for my uncle's estate, but this is good info for others who might be sharing duties with siblings or other family members. The IRS really should update these forms to be clearer.

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Ravi Kapoor

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I went through this exact same situation when my father passed away intestate two years ago. You're absolutely right that the IRS instructions aren't clear about the IDENTIFYING NUMBER field - it's one of those things that seems obvious once you know, but is confusing when you're dealing with it for the first time. To confirm what others have said: yes, you put YOUR Social Security Number in the IDENTIFYING NUMBER box. This identifies you as the fiduciary to the IRS. Your uncle's SSN goes in the taxpayer information section, and your SSN goes in the identifying number field to establish you as the person authorized to handle his tax matters. One thing I learned the hard way - make sure to keep copies of everything and send the Form 56 via certified mail so you have proof the IRS received it. It can take several weeks for them to process it and update their records to recognize you as the authorized fiduciary. During that time, you might have trouble accessing information about your uncle's tax accounts if you need to call them. Also, don't forget that filing Form 56 doesn't automatically give you access to prior year tax information - you might need to file Form 4506-T separately if you need copies of old returns for estate administration purposes.

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Leila Haddad

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Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! I just wanted to follow up and confirm that I successfully submitted Form 56 using my own SSN in the IDENTIFYING NUMBER box as you all suggested. I ended up sending it certified mail as Ravi recommended, and got confirmation it was delivered to the IRS about 10 days ago. Now I'm just waiting for them to process it so I can start handling my uncle's final tax return. One question for those who've been through this - how long did it typically take for the IRS to update their records after you filed Form 56? I'm wondering when I'll actually be able to call them and access information about his tax account if needed. Also, for anyone else dealing with intestate estates, I found it helpful to make a checklist of all the tax-related tasks since there are so many deadlines to keep track of. Form 56 was just the first step!

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Aisha Ali

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Great to hear you got it submitted! In my experience, it typically takes 4-6 weeks for the IRS to fully process Form 56 and update their systems to recognize you as the authorized fiduciary. Sometimes it can be faster, but I'd plan for at least a month before you can reliably access account information by phone. One tip - when you do call the IRS after it's processed, have the Form 56 confirmation number ready (if you have one) along with both your SSN and your uncle's SSN. Sometimes the phone representatives need both to verify your authorization, especially in the early weeks after processing. The checklist idea is brilliant! Estate administration has so many moving pieces and deadlines. Make sure you note the deadline for filing your uncle's final 1040 - it's still April 15th of the year following his death unless you file for an extension.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now with my grandmother's estate, and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I was also confused about that IDENTIFYING NUMBER field - the IRS really needs to make their instructions clearer. One thing I wanted to add for anyone else going through this process: if you're handling an intestate estate, make sure you also check with your state's probate court about any additional requirements. Even though there's no will, some states require you to file certain paperwork with the court before you can act as the estate administrator, especially if there are any debts or if the estate exceeds certain thresholds. I learned this after already filing my Form 56, and had to go back and get letters of administration from the probate court. It didn't invalidate the Form 56, but having the official court documents made everything smoother when dealing with banks and other institutions. Also, Giovanni, if you haven't already, I'd recommend getting multiple certified copies of the death certificate - you'll need them for almost everything related to settling the estate, not just the tax forms.

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Justin Trejo

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This is such great advice about checking with probate court! I wish I had known about this earlier in the process. I'm actually in a similar boat - dealing with my stepmother's intestate estate and already filed Form 56 with my SSN in the identifying number field (thanks to this thread!), but now I'm wondering if I need to get formal letters of administration too. Did you have any issues with the IRS accepting your Form 56 before you got the court letters? I'm worried I might have jumped the gun by filing the tax form first. My stepmother's estate is pretty straightforward - just some bank accounts and a small life insurance policy - but I want to make sure I'm doing everything in the right order. Also completely agree about getting multiple death certificates! I thought 3 copies would be enough but I've already used 2 just for the bank accounts and insurance company.

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Natalie Khan

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I've been following this discussion with great interest as I'm currently navigating my own estate situation. Just wanted to share a few additional tips that might help others going through this process: First, regarding the Form 56 processing time - while most people mentioned 4-6 weeks, I found that calling the Practitioner Priority Service line (if you're working with a tax professional) can sometimes give you faster updates on processing status. If you're doing this yourself, the regular taxpayer line works but expect longer wait times. Second, for those dealing with multiple financial institutions, I discovered that some banks and investment companies have their own fiduciary forms they want you to complete in addition to the IRS Form 56. These aren't tax-related, but they're necessary to access and manage the deceased's accounts. It's worth calling each institution early in the process to find out what paperwork they specifically require. Finally, consider setting up a separate checking account specifically for estate expenses and income. This makes record-keeping much easier when you eventually need to file the final tax returns and any required estate tax forms. The IRS appreciates clear documentation of how estate funds were handled. The learning curve is steep when you're thrust into this role, but forums like this really help navigate the confusion. Thanks to everyone who's shared their experiences!

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Javier Morales

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This is such valuable advice, especially about the separate estate checking account! I wish I had thought of that earlier in the process with my uncle's estate. I've been mixing everything through my personal account and it's becoming a nightmare to track what's estate-related versus my own expenses. The tip about banks having their own fiduciary forms is spot-on too. I ran into this with my uncle's credit union - they wanted their own internal authorization form even after I showed them the Form 56. It delayed accessing his accounts by another week while I waited for their paperwork to process. One thing I'd add is to keep detailed records of all your time and expenses related to estate administration. While most small estates don't require formal accounting to the court, having everything documented makes tax season much smoother and protects you if any beneficiaries have questions later. I started tracking this late in the game and regret not being more organized from day one. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really helpful to know others have navigated this successfully!

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