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Zainab Ahmed

Confused about my IRS tax transcript from 2017 - What do these numbers mean?

I need help figuring out what's on my IRS tax transcript. I got a tax transcript dated December 31, 2017, and I'm completely lost about what some of these numbers mean: Account balance: 2,750.35 Accrued interest: 341.20 as of February 28, 2022 Accrued penalty: 645.65 as of February 28, 2022 Account Balance plus accruals (this is not a payoff amount): 3,737.20 Does this mean I owe money to the IRS? Is this something I need to pay ASAP? I'm freaking out a little because I just found this while going through some old papers. Can someone explain what all these numbers actually mean and what I need to do about them? Thanks in advance!

Yes, this transcript shows you have an outstanding tax balance from 2017 that hasn't been paid. The account balance is the original amount you owed, while the accrued interest and penalties are what has accumulated over time because the original amount wasn't paid. The "Account Balance plus accruals" is the total of those three numbers, but as it states, that's not necessarily the payoff amount. Interest and penalties continue to accrue daily, so if you want to pay it off completely, you'll need to contact the IRS for the current payoff amount. I'd recommend addressing this soon, as unpaid tax debt can lead to collection actions like tax liens, levies on your bank accounts, or wage garnishments. The IRS can also offset future tax refunds to pay down this debt.

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If they contact the IRS about this old debt, could they get on a payment plan? Or is it too old for that? I had something similar happen but from 2019 and I'm worried about calling them.

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It's definitely not too old for a payment plan. The IRS generally offers several payment options regardless of how old the debt is. You can request a short-term payment plan (paying within 180 days) or a long-term installment agreement. For a debt of this size, you might qualify for a streamlined installment agreement which is easier to set up. Interest and penalties will continue to accrue, but at a reduced rate once you're on a payment plan. It's always better to contact them proactively rather than waiting for collection actions to start.

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Former IRS employee here. That transcript is showing you have an unpaid balance from 2017 plus the accumulated penalties and interest. The "Account Balance plus accruals" is what you owed as of Feb 2022, but that amount has continued to grow since then with more interest and penalties. Call the IRS at 1-800-829-1040 and request a current account statement. Also ask if you qualify for any penalty abatement - first-time penalty abatement (FTA) is available if you had a clean compliance history before this. You might be able to get the penalties removed, which would reduce what you owe significantly.

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Javier Cruz

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Is there a time limit on requesting the first-time penalty abatement? My situation is from 2018 and I'm wondering if it's too late to ask for that.

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There's no specific time limit for requesting first-time penalty abatement. You can request it for older tax years as long as you meet the criteria - generally having a good compliance history for the three years prior to the year you're requesting it for, and having filed all required returns and paid (or arranged to pay) any tax due. For your 2018 situation, you would need to have been compliant for 2015, 2016, and 2017. Even if you're just now addressing the issue, you can still request the abatement. Just call the IRS and specifically ask about "first-time penalty abatement" for your 2018 tax year.

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Emma Thompson

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Check if you might qualify for the IRS Fresh Start program too. It helps people who owe back taxes with payment plans and might even reduce penalties. I owed about $3k from 2016 and was able to set up a monthly payment plan of just $85. The most important thing is to be proactive and contact them before they start more aggressive collection actions.

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Malik Jackson

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Does Fresh Start have an income limit? I make decent money now but didn't back when I got behind on taxes.

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Emma Thompson

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Fresh Start doesn't have a strict income limit in the way some other programs do. It's more about the amount you owe and your ability to pay. Your current income is considered when determining monthly payment amounts, but higher income doesn't disqualify you from the program altogether. If you owe $50,000 or less, you can still qualify for streamlined installment agreements. They might require financial verification if the amount is larger, but having a higher income now doesn't automatically exclude you from setting up a payment plan or other collection alternatives.

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QuantumQuest

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I went through something very similar with a 2016 tax debt that I discovered years later. That transcript format can be really confusing at first! The key thing to understand is that your original debt was $2,750.35, but it's now grown to over $3,700 with interest and penalties. Here's what I'd recommend based on my experience: First, call the IRS to get your current balance since that transcript is from 2022 and more interest has accumulated. Second, ask about penalty abatement options - you might qualify for first-time penalty abatement if you had clean tax history before 2017. Third, don't panic about paying it all at once - the IRS offers payment plans even for older debts. The most important thing is to address this proactively. I waited too long and ended up with a tax lien that took months to resolve. But once I called and set up a payment plan, the stress went away and I was able to handle it with manageable monthly payments. You've got options, so don't let the anxiety overwhelm you!

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GalacticGuru

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This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar situation and have been putting off dealing with it because I was scared. Your point about addressing it proactively before they take collection actions really resonates with me. Did you have to provide a lot of financial documentation when you set up your payment plan, or was it pretty straightforward? I'm worried they'll want to see all my bank statements and stuff.

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