Can you rollover Coverdell ESA funds to Roth IRA under Secure 2.0 Act?
I'm trying to understand the new Secure 2.0 provisions for rolling over education savings accounts into Roth IRAs. I know the Act allows 529 plans to be rolled over into Roth IRAs for the beneficiary, which is great. But I'm confused about whether Coverdell ESAs qualify for this same treatment. My daughter has about $18,000 in a Coverdell ESA that we set up years ago, and I'd love to convert this to a Roth IRA for her since she got scholarships and didn't need all the education funds. Since Coverdell ESAs are treated like 529s in many other ways, can they be directly rolled over to a Roth IRA under the new rules? If that's not allowed, I'm thinking about a two-step process - first rolling the Coverdell funds into a 529 plan in her name, then eventually moving those to a Roth IRA. But would we need to wait the full 15 years after creating the 529 before doing the Roth conversion? That seems like a long time just to make this work. Has anyone navigated this specific scenario yet? Any insights would be super helpful!
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Elijah O'Reilly
This is a great question about a somewhat confusing part of the Secure 2.0 Act. Unfortunately, the direct rollover provision from education accounts to Roth IRAs specifically only applies to 529 plans, not Coverdell ESAs. The legislation was written to target 529 plans specifically. Your two-step process idea is actually the correct approach in this situation. You would first need to roll the Coverdell ESA into a 529 plan (which is permitted without penalties), and then you could utilize the 529-to-Roth rollover provision. However, you're right about the 15-year concern. The Secure 2.0 Act stipulates that the 529 account must have been open for at least 15 years before funds can be rolled into a Roth IRA. This is designed to prevent people from using this as a short-term backdoor Roth contribution method. So if you create a new 529 with the Coverdell funds, you would indeed need to wait 15 years before executing the Roth conversion.
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Amara Torres
•Would the 15-year clock start when you open the 529, or could it potentially count the years the Coverdell was open since it's essentially the same money just being moved between education accounts? Also, is there a lifetime limit on how much you can convert?
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Elijah O'Reilly
•The 15-year clock starts specifically from when the 529 account was opened. Unfortunately, the years the Coverdell was open don't count toward this requirement, even though it's the same education funds. The IRS looks at the specific account establishment date of the 529 plan. There is indeed a lifetime limit on these conversions. The Secure 2.0 Act caps the total amount that can be rolled over from a 529 to a Roth IRA at $35,000 per beneficiary (lifetime limit). Also, annual rollovers are subject to the annual Roth contribution limits (currently $7,000 for 2025), and the beneficiary must have earned income at least equal to the rollover amount in the year of the conversion.
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Olivia Van-Cleve
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Mason Kaczka
•How exactly does the tool work? Did you have to upload financial statements or just answer questions? I'm always hesitant to put financial info into random websites.
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Sophia Russo
•I've seen people talk about this service but the whole 15-year waiting period seems like such a deal breaker that I wonder if it's even worth the analysis? Did it actually give you any workarounds for that part of the rule?
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Olivia Van-Cleve
•The tool works by analyzing your documents and financial situation through a secure interface. You can either upload statements or answer a detailed questionnaire about your accounts. All data is encrypted and they don't store your personal financial information after the analysis. For the 15-year rule, there are no complete workarounds since it's written into the law, but the analysis did reveal some strategic options I hadn't considered. For example, it showed that I could maximize the annual Roth conversions after the waiting period to coincide with my retirement schedule, and in the meantime, use the 529 funds for qualified expenses for grandchildren. Every situation is different, which is why the personalized analysis was so valuable to me.
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Sophia Russo
Just wanted to update everyone - I decided to try https://taxr.ai after my skeptical questions. Honestly, I'm blown away by how helpful it was for my specific situation. It turns out there was a detail about my existing 529 plan that I totally missed! I had actually set up a 529 for my son back in 2009 and then stopped contributing after opening the Coverdell in 2012. I completely forgot about this dormant account. The taxr.ai analysis flagged this and showed me that I could roll the Coverdell funds into THIS existing 529 which has already satisfied the 15-year requirement! This means I can actually start the Roth IRA conversions for him next year without waiting. The system also calculated exactly how much we can convert each year based on his part-time job income. This saved us literally years of waiting and thousands in potential tax benefits. Sometimes being a packrat with old accounts pays off!
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Evelyn Xu
If you're dealing with this Coverdell-to-529-to-Roth conversion situation, you might also run into issues trying to get clarification from the IRS. I spent WEEKS trying to get through to someone who could answer my specific questions about how the beneficiary income requirements work for these conversions. After getting nowhere with the regular IRS phone line (literally 2+ hour wait times then disconnected), I found a service called Claimyr at https://claimyr.com that got me a callback from the IRS in under 15 minutes! You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I was finally able to speak with a specialist who confirmed that for the annual conversions, my daughter needs to have earned income in each tax year we do a conversion, not just when we initially set up the Roth. This was crucial information for our planning since she's still in college with variable income.
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Dominic Green
•How does this actually work? Do they have some special connection to the IRS or something? Seems hard to believe they can get through when nobody else can.
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Hannah Flores
•Sounds like a scam to me. The IRS is notoriously impossible to reach. No way some random service can magically get callbacks when millions of people can't get through. Did you actually talk to a real IRS agent or just someone claiming to be one?
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Evelyn Xu
•The service works by using an automated system that continually redials the IRS using their callback feature until it secures a spot in line. Once they get the callback spot, they transfer it to you. They don't have special connections - they're just using technology to handle the frustrating redial process so you don't have to. Yes, I absolutely spoke with a real IRS agent. The service just secures your place in line - the actual call comes directly from the official IRS phone system. The IRS representative identified themselves properly, verified my information, and answered all my specific questions about the Secure 2.0 provisions. I even called the IRS back independently on another matter and referenced the previous conversation, and they had the notes from our call in their system.
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Hannah Flores
I need to eat some humble pie here. After calling Claimyr a scam yesterday, I decided to try it this morning since I've been trying to reach the IRS for THREE WEEKS about my 529 plan conversion options. I'm shocked to report it actually worked. I got a callback from the IRS in about 20 minutes, and spoke with an agent who walked me through exactly how the rollover reporting works on tax forms. The agent confirmed something important for anyone considering the Coverdell-to-529-to-Roth path: when you roll Coverdell funds to a 529, the original contribution dates from the Coverdell do NOT carry over. However, they did tell me that some financial institutions may have been incorrectly reporting this, so it's worth documenting everything carefully in case you need to challenge an incorrect determination later. So while I'm still mad about the 15-year waiting period, at least I now understand exactly how to document everything properly. Sorry for being so skeptical!
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Kayla Jacobson
One thing nobody has mentioned yet is that you should check if your STATE has any special rules about these rollovers! I live in Nebraska and our state department of revenue has different guidance than the federal rules. In my state, if you received state tax deductions for 529 contributions (which I did), rolling those funds into a Roth IRA could trigger a state "recapture tax" where they claw back the deductions you received. So even if the federal rules allow the rollover without penalties, your state might still hit you with taxes. I'd check your state's tax authority website or call them directly before making any moves.
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William Rivera
•Do you know if California has any weird rules like this? I got state tax benefits when contributing to my son's account years ago.
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Kayla Jacobson
•I don't know California's specific rules, but they're often stricter than most states when it comes to tax benefits. Many states that offered deductions for 529 contributions do have recapture provisions if the money isn't used for qualified education expenses. Since the Roth conversion is a relatively new option, some states haven't updated their guidance specifically on this. Your best bet is to check with the California Franchise Tax Board or the administrator of California's 529 program (ScholarShare, I believe). They should have guidance on whether Roth conversions trigger recapture of previous tax benefits. Even if there are recapture taxes, you might still come out ahead with the conversion depending on your situation.
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Grace Lee
Has anybody actually completed one of these rollovers yet? My financial advisor is telling me the custodians (Fidelity in my case) aren't set up to process these transactions yet even though the law allows it.
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Mia Roberts
•I work at a financial institution (not Fidelity), and your advisor is partly right. Many firms are still developing their processes for these specific rollovers. The Secure 2.0 provisions are still relatively new, and the IRS is still finalizing some of the detailed guidance for financial institutions. At my company, we can process them but it requires manual handling by our operations team rather than through the standard online systems. I'd recommend asking your advisor to check if Fidelity has a manual process available through their operations department, even if the standard systems aren't ready yet.
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Grace Lee
•Thanks for that insight. I'll definitely ask about manual processing options. My advisor was basically just telling me "the system won't let me do it yet" without exploring alternatives. Might be time for a new advisor!
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Madeline Blaze
This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation with my son's Coverdell ESA. One additional consideration I discovered is the timing of when you do the Coverdell-to-529 rollover within the tax year. My tax preparer pointed out that if you roll the Coverdell funds to a 529 late in the year, you might miss the window to use any of those funds for qualified education expenses in that same tax year (if your beneficiary is still in school). This could be relevant if you're trying to maximize the educational use of the funds before eventually converting to Roth. Also, for anyone considering this path, make sure to keep detailed records of the original Coverdell contribution dates and amounts. Even though they don't carry over to the 529 for the 15-year rule, you'll want this documentation for your own tax planning and to verify any calculations your financial institution makes. The complexity of these rules really makes me appreciate having professional guidance, whether that's through tax software, advisors, or the various services people have mentioned here!
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PrinceJoe
Thank you all for this incredibly detailed discussion! As someone who's been wrestling with a similar Coverdell ESA situation, this thread has been a goldmine of information. I wanted to add one more consideration that my CPA brought up - the impact of Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs) on this strategy. Since Roth IRAs don't have RMDs during the owner's lifetime, converting unused education funds to a Roth can be a great long-term estate planning tool. However, if you're planning this conversion for a young beneficiary, you need to factor in that they'll eventually have RMDs from any traditional retirement accounts they accumulate. The timing of when to do these conversions (once the 15-year period is satisfied) might be strategic - doing them during years when the beneficiary has lower income could minimize the tax impact, since the conversions count as taxable income. Also, I noticed several people mentioned state tax implications. Don't forget that some states don't tax Roth IRA distributions at all, while others do. So the long-term state tax treatment of the converted funds could be another factor in deciding whether this strategy makes sense for your situation. The complexity of all these rules really reinforces why getting professional guidance is so valuable for these decisions!
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JaylinCharles
•This is such a comprehensive overview of all the moving parts! I'm just getting started with understanding these rules and honestly feeling a bit overwhelmed by all the considerations - federal vs state taxes, timing, RMDs, custodian limitations, etc. As a newcomer to this whole process, would you recommend starting with professional tax advice first before exploring any of the tools or services mentioned in this thread? I have about $12,000 in a Coverdell for my daughter and want to make sure I don't make any costly mistakes while trying to optimize this situation. Also, is there a particular order you'd recommend tackling these decisions? Like should I figure out the state tax implications first, or start by determining if I even have any old 529 accounts floating around that might help with the 15-year requirement?
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