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Yuki Tanaka

Can you face legal trouble for not filing taxes if you don't owe the IRS any money?

So I've been wondering about this for a while now and figured I'd ask here... If I don't end up owing the IRS anything, can I get into actual trouble for not filing my tax return? I mean, wouldn't they be happy that I'm not asking for money back from them? I think I'm in a situation where I don't actually owe them anything but I've been honestly super lazy about doing my paperwork this year. I know the government can be weird about these things though. Is there any chance they could actually prosecute me or something if I just... don't file? Like is that a criminal offense or just a "hey please do this" kind of thing?

Yes, you can absolutely get in trouble for not filing taxes even if you don't owe anything. Filing your tax return is required by law regardless of whether you owe money or are due a refund. The IRS can impose failure-to-file penalties even when you don't owe taxes. The penalty is typically 5% of unpaid taxes for each month your return is late, up to 25%. While you might think "5% of zero is zero," the IRS can still impose a minimum penalty for late filing. More importantly, not filing prevents the statute of limitations from starting. Normally, the IRS has 3 years to audit your return, but if you never file, they can come after you indefinitely. Plus, if they determine you should have owed money, those penalties and interest will accumulate from the original due date.

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Wait, so the IRS can charge me penalties even if I don't owe them anything? That seems kinda unfair. Also, what's this about a statute of limitations? Does that mean if I filed 4 years ago and messed something up, they can't come after me now?

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The minimum penalty situation usually applies when you owe taxes, so if you truly owe zero, the 5% of zero would indeed be zero. However, the bigger issue is that the IRS might not agree with your assessment that you owe nothing. If they determine you actually did owe taxes, then you'd face failure-to-file penalties plus interest accruing from the original due date. Regarding the statute of limitations, that's exactly right. Generally, once you file a return, the IRS has 3 years to audit and assess additional taxes (this extends to 6 years if you omitted more than 25% of your income). If you never file a return, that clock never starts ticking, giving them unlimited time to investigate.

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Does it actually tell you if you're legally required to file? Like, does it check income thresholds and all that stuff? I'm a student with really minimal income but I got a 1099 for some freelance work I did.

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This might seem like a dumb question, but how do you even know if you owe taxes before you file? Like, isn't that the whole point of filing - to figure out if you owe money or get a refund? So the logic of "I don't need to file because I don't owe" seems circular to me.

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Not a dumb question at all! You're exactly right - you often don't know for sure if you owe until you actually do the calculations. Your employer might withhold what they think is the right amount, but they don't know about other income sources, deductions, credits, etc. I learned this the hard way. Thought I didn't need to file because "I definitely don't owe" and then got a nasty letter from the IRS 2 years later saying I owed $1,200 plus penalties and interest. Turns out I had forgotten about some freelance work I did that didn't have taxes withheld.

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Thanks for making me feel less stupid about this! So basically everyone should file regardless, because you can't be 100% sure you don't owe without actually doing the calculations. I guess I've been thinking about this backwards.

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Ava Kim

My brother didn't file for 3 years cuz he was "sure he didn't owe" and the IRS eventually caught up with him. They reconstructed what his income should have been based on third-party reporting and sent him a bill with penalties that was wayyyyyy more than if he'd just filed normally. Plus they almost went after him for tax evasion which is no joke. Just file your taxes people!!!

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Do u have to file even if ur income is super low? Like I only made like $3k last year from my summer job. Nobody has ever told me I need to file with income that low.

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For $3k from a summer job, you're probably not required to file since that's well below the $13,850 filing threshold for single filers that was mentioned earlier. However, you might actually want to file anyway because you probably had taxes withheld from your paychecks that you could get back as a refund! Check your W-2 - if there's anything in the "Federal income tax withheld" box, filing a return would get that money back to you. Plus if you're a student, there might be education credits you could claim. So even though you're not required to file, it could put money in your pocket.

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Just to add to what everyone else has said - even if you're 100% certain you don't owe taxes, there are actually several good reasons to file anyway: 1. **You might be leaving money on the table** - Like others mentioned, you could qualify for refundable credits like the Earned Income Tax Credit or American Opportunity Tax Credit that actually give you money even if you didn't pay any taxes. 2. **Proof of income** - Having a filed tax return makes it way easier to apply for loans, apartments, financial aid, etc. Landlords and lenders often want to see your tax returns as proof of income. 3. **Social Security credits** - If you earned income but don't file, you might not get proper credit toward your Social Security benefits later in life. 4. **Peace of mind** - Filing eliminates any worry about whether the IRS will come knocking later. It's one less thing to stress about. The whole process is honestly not as bad as people make it out to be, especially if your situation is simple. And if you're owed a refund, you're basically giving the government a free loan by not filing. Why let them keep your money?

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This is really helpful! I had no idea about the Social Security credits thing. I'm 22 and honestly haven't been thinking about retirement at all, but if not filing now could mess up my benefits decades from now, that's definitely something to consider. Also the proof of income point is spot on - I tried to get approved for a credit card last year and they wanted tax returns which I didn't have. Had to jump through a bunch of extra hoops to prove my income instead. Would've been so much easier if I'd just filed. One question though - if I file now but I'm super late (like we're talking months late), are there still penalties even if I don't owe anything? Or is it only penalties if you actually owe money?

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