Can our therapy practice & carwash business qualify for Education Expense Deductions for doctoral and accounting programs?
So my wife and I are trying to figure out if our education expenses could qualify as business deductions. We're in two different situations: First, my wife has been running her counseling practice (single-member LLC) for about 3 years now. She's bringing in roughly $55k net annually. She just started her Doctoral program in Counseling and thinks it might qualify as a business expense since she already has her Master's in Counseling and this would help position her as an expert in her field. Her patients would definitely take her more seriously as "Dr." and it could help grow her practice. The tuition is pretty steep - would she be able to deduct the entire amount? Second, I'm starting my Associate's degree in Accounting at the local community college this fall. I've been running a Mobile Carwash business that nets between $14k-$20k annually. I'm wondering if I could claim the accounting courses as "improving skills" for my existing business. Alternatively, could my wife's counseling practice claim my accounting education as a business expense since I'm focusing on helping grow our family businesses? I started reading about these deductions somewhere, but couldn't find clear answers about our specific situation and whether we would need to...
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Felix Grigori
You've got some interesting scenarios here! Let me break this down: For your wife's doctoral program: The IRS allows deductions for education that maintains or improves skills needed in your present work. Since she already has an established counseling practice and the doctoral program directly relates to her current profession, she has a reasonable case. However, there's a key distinction: if the doctorate qualifies her for a new profession (rather than enhancing her current one), it might not qualify. Since she's already a counselor and continuing in that field, just at a higher level, she has a stronger argument for deduction. For your accounting degree: This is trickier. For your carwash business, you need to demonstrate how accounting skills are necessary for your current work - not just helpful for future growth. Basic accounting knowledge can be justified, but a full degree might exceed what's considered directly related to running a carwash. Your wife's business claiming your education is even less likely to qualify unless you're formally employed by her practice handling the books. Remember: You must be maintaining or improving skills needed in your CURRENT business. Education that prepares you for a new career isn't deductible.
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Felicity Bud
•What about the fact that his carwash is already established? Wouldn't learning accounting directly improve his ability to manage the business financials, track expenses, etc.? Also, does it matter if he's taking just specific accounting courses vs a full degree program?
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Felix Grigori
•You raise a good point. Yes, the established nature of his carwash business strengthens his case. Basic accounting courses that directly apply to business management (tracking revenue, expenses, preparing business tax returns) can definitely qualify as maintaining or improving skills needed in his current business. The full degree versus individual courses distinction does matter. The IRS tends to scrutinize full degree programs more closely since they often prepare you for new career opportunities beyond your current business. If he can demonstrate that specific courses are directly applicable to managing his carwash finances, those particular courses have a stronger case for deductibility, even within a degree program.
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Max Reyes
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Mikayla Davison
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Adrian Connor
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Max Reyes
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Ryder Everingham
•Wait, how does this actually work? Do they just call the IRS for you? Couldn't you just keep calling yourself until you get through?
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Lilly Curtis
•This sounds like BS honestly. The IRS doesn't give personalized tax advice over the phone. They'll just direct you to publications or tell you to consult a tax professional. I doubt they'd give specific guidance on education deductions for your particular classes.
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Aisha Jackson
•They don't just call for you - they use a system that navigates the IRS phone tree and holds your place in line. When an agent is about to pick up, they call you and connect you. I tried calling myself for 3 weeks and never got through during business hours. You're partially right about personalized advice, but not entirely. The IRS won't prepare your return for you, but they absolutely will clarify how specific tax rules apply to your situation. In my case, the agent explained the criteria for business education deductions and helped me understand how they'd apply to my specific circumstances. They won't tell you "deduct this class but not that one," but they will explain the requirements so you can make that determination correctly.
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Lilly Curtis
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Leo Simmons
I think everyone's missing something important here. Education expenses might be better deducted as business expenses on Schedule C rather than as work-related education deductions. If your wife's counseling practice is a legitimate business (which it sounds like it is), the doctoral program costs could be deductible as ordinary and necessary business expenses. Same goes for your accounting degree and the carwash business. The key is proper documentation showing how these educational expenses are ordinary and necessary for your CURRENT businesses. Keep detailed records of how specific courses directly relate to skills needed in your existing businesses. This approach has worked better for me than trying to use the education deductions, which have more limitations since the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.
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Lindsey Fry
•Can you explain more about how to document this? Like what kind of proof would you need to show the IRS that your education is "ordinary and necessary" for your business? I'm taking some digital marketing courses and want to deduct them for my Etsy shop.
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Leo Simmons
•Documentation is crucial. I keep a business education folder with: course descriptions/syllabi highlighting specific skills taught, a written explanation connecting each course to specific aspects of my current business operations, evidence that these skills are industry standards (like professional association recommendations), and a log tracking how I've implemented these skills in my business. For your digital marketing courses and Etsy shop, save the course descriptions, then create a document explaining how each marketing technique directly applies to growing your existing Etsy business. Track your marketing metrics before and after implementing what you learn to show business purpose. If similar businesses commonly use these marketing techniques, note that as evidence that the education is "ordinary" in your field.
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Saleem Vaziri
Has anyone mentioned the dollar limits here? Education expenses can add up FAST. My husband & I got hit with AMT (Alternative Minimum Tax) one year because our deductions were too high. Make sure you're looking at the big picture with all your deductions combined! Also something to consider - would these education expenses qualify for any tax CREDITS instead of deductions? Credits are usually worth more. Look into Lifetime Learning Credit if you haven't already.
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Kayla Morgan
•That's a really good point about credits vs deductions! I think business expense deductions don't have the same caps as education credits though? At least that was my understanding. Can you take BOTH the business education deduction AND education credits for the same expenses?
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