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Beatrice Marshall

Can my unpaid state tax debt prevent me from receiving my federal tax refunds?

I've been dealing with this mess for several years now. Basically, I went through some rough times and ended up with a pretty significant debt to my state tax agency. The problem is I haven't received my federal tax refunds in years, which is really frustrating. We've finally organized most of our paperwork and seem to have filed everything correctly on both state and federal sides. The only outstanding issue is the balance we still owe to the state, which is around $5200. By my calculations, the federal government owes me something like $10,500 in refunds by now. If I could just get that federal money, I could immediately pay off what I owe to the state! The most annoying part is I can't get anyone on the phone who can explain what's happening. I've tried calling multiple times but either wait forever or get disconnected. Does anyone know if owing state taxes can block federal refunds? Is there any effective way to contact someone who can actually explain what's going on with my federal refunds? Any advice would be appreciated!

Melina Haruko

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Yes, your state tax debt is almost certainly the reason you're not receiving your federal refunds. This happens through something called the Treasury Offset Program (TOP). Federal agencies can collect delinquent debts by offsetting (taking) your federal tax refunds. States can participate in this program for collecting state tax debts. The process works like this: Your state tax agency reports your debt to the Treasury Department's Bureau of the Fiscal Service. When you file your federal return and are due a refund, the Bureau checks if you're in the TOP database. If you are, they take your refund (or part of it) and send it to the state to pay down your debt. You should have received a notice when your refund was offset, explaining which agency received the money and their contact information. Check your mail history for notices from the Treasury Department's Bureau of the Fiscal Service. To resolve this, you need to address the state tax debt directly. You might consider setting up a payment plan with your state tax agency, which could potentially release future federal refunds.

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Thanks for explaining! Does this mean all of their federal refunds for the past several years automatically went to the state without them being notified? Also, if they set up a payment plan now, would they get any of the $10,500 in back refunds they mentioned?

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Melina Haruko

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They should have received a notice each time a refund was offset. The notice comes from the Treasury Department's Bureau of the Fiscal Service, not the IRS, which is why many people miss it or don't recognize its importance. The notice explains which agency received the money and provides contact information. Regarding back refunds, setting up a payment plan now won't retroactively release already-offset refunds. Those payments have already been applied to the state tax debt. However, if the total offset amount exceeds the actual debt owed (plus penalties and interest), the state should eventually refund the excess amount. They should contact their state tax agency to request an accounting of all payments applied to their debt, including those from federal offsets.

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How does it work with multiple years of tax issues? I've got a similar problem but spanning like 5 different tax years with both state and federal problems.

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Demi Lagos

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Demi Lagos

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I have to admit I was really skeptical about taxr.ai when I first saw it mentioned here. After struggling for months trying to figure out why I hadn't received $3700 in federal refunds, I was desperate enough to try it. The results were eye-opening! Turned out my refunds were going to an old state tax debt in a state I'd moved from three years ago. But here's the crazy part - the analysis showed they had continued taking my refunds even AFTER the debt was fully paid! The state owed me nearly $1500 in over-collected funds! I printed the analysis, called the state tax office with the specific dates and amounts highlighted, and finally got someone who could help. Without having those specific details from the transcript analysis, I'd still be getting the runaround. Just received a check for the over-collection last week. Such a relief after years of confusion!

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Mason Lopez

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Vera Visnjic

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Does this actually work? I've spent literally HOURS on hold with the IRS and always get disconnected right when I'm about to talk to someone. How do they get through when regular callers can't?

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Jake Sinclair

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Mason Lopez

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Jake Sinclair

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I'm eating humble pie right now. After posting that skeptical comment about Claimyr, I decided to try it anyway because I was that desperate to talk to someone at the IRS about my offset refunds. I'm shocked to report it actually worked! After spending literal weeks trying to get through the regular way (and getting disconnected EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.), I was connected to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes through their service. The agent confirmed that my refunds for the past three years had been sent to my state department of revenue for a tax debt from 2019. She also gave me the direct number for the Treasury Offset Program and advised me to request a detailed accounting from my state to ensure all payments were properly applied. This was information I couldn't get anywhere else! If you're stuck in refund limbo like I was, it's worth it just to finally get some answers from a real human at the IRS.

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Just gonna share my experience - I was in a similar situation owing about $3800 to my state while the feds owed me about $6200 over multiple years. I ended up hiring a CPA who specialized in tax resolution. Cost me about $600 but he sorted everything out in about 2 months. Turns out the state had been reporting an inflated debt amount to the Treasury Offset Program because they weren't properly accounting for penalties and interest. My actual debt was only about $2900 after he got them to review everything. And some of my federal refunds had gone into a holding account because of an identity verification issue that I didn't even know about! Sometimes having a professional who knows how to navigate the system and who to call can save you years of frustration.

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Honorah King

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Did the CPA help you recover the excess refunds that should have been returned to you? I'm in a similar situation and wondering if paying for professional help is worth it.

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Yes, that was the best part! The CPA was able to prove that the state had received about $1300 more than I actually owed once all the calculations were corrected. It took some back and forth, but the state eventually issued me a refund for the excess amount they had received through the offset program. As for whether it's worth hiring someone - in my case, absolutely. I had been trying to sort this out on my own for almost two years with no progress. The CPA had contacts and knew exactly what forms to file and what to say to get action. The $600 I paid saved me countless hours of frustration and helped me recover $1300 I wouldn't have otherwise received, plus got my future refunds flowing again. Sometimes you need someone who speaks their language.

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Oliver Brown

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Has anyone tried calling the Treasury Offset Program directly? There's a specific number for them (1-800-304-3107) where you can get information about your offsets without having to go through the IRS. You need your Social Security number, but they can tell you which agency has received your refunds and how much. I owed state taxes and child support, and my refunds were being split between the two. Once I called this number, I at least knew exactly what was happening, even if I didn't like the answer!

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Mary Bates

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I tried this number and it works! It's an automated system that tells you if you have offsets, the type of offset (state tax, child support, student loans, etc.), and the amount. It doesn't give you super detailed info, but at least confirms if your refunds are being redirected.

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Oliver Brown

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Glad it helped! Yeah, it's not a full solution but at least it gives you confirmation about whether offsets are happening. Sometimes just knowing for sure is half the battle, especially when you can't get anyone on the phone to explain things.

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