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Andre Dupont

Can my stay-at-home spouse make deductible IRA contributions if my MAGI exceeds $136k?

I'm trying to figure out the IRA contribution situation for my wife and me. She's a stay-at-home mom taking care of our kids full-time and doesn't have any income of her own. Meanwhile, I'm the sole earner in our household with a Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) above $136,000. From what I understand, my income exceeds the threshold for making deductible IRA contributions for myself, but I'm confused about whether my wife can still make deductible IRA contributions to her own account despite my high income. The IRS rules seem a bit murky on this specific scenario, and I can't find a clear answer online. Does anyone know if my non-working spouse can make deductible IRA contributions when my income is over the limit? Would really appreciate some clarity on this!

QuantumQuasar

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Yes, this is a common area of confusion! For a non-working spouse, the rules are different than for the working spouse. What you're looking for is called a "spousal IRA contribution." For 2025, your non-working spouse CAN make a deductible IRA contribution even though your income is above $136,000, but there are income limits that still apply. For married filing jointly couples, the deduction for a non-working spouse starts phasing out when MAGI reaches $230,000 and is completely eliminated at $240,000. Since you mentioned your MAGI is just over $136,000, your wife should still be eligible to make a fully deductible contribution of up to $7,000 (or $8,000 if she's 50 or older). The key requirement is that you must file jointly and have earned income at least equal to the total IRA contributions made for both spouses.

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Andre Dupont

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Thanks for explaining that! So just to confirm, since our MAGI is around $138,000, my wife can still make the full deductible contribution of $7,000 to her IRA? And you mentioned the phase-out starts at $230,000, which is way above where we are, so we should be good?

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QuantumQuasar

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Yes, at a MAGI of $138,000, your wife is well below the phase-out threshold of $230,000 for spousal IRA deductions, so she can make the full $7,000 contribution for 2025 (or $8,000 if she's 50+). Just remember that you'll need to file your taxes as "married filing jointly" to qualify for this, and your earned income needs to be at least equal to the total contributions made to both your IRAs if you're also contributing to your own.

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Did it actually help with figuring out the contribution limits? My husband and I are in a similar situation but our income is right around $225k and I'm not sure if we're partially phased out or what.

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NebulaNinja

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Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you're contributing to the RIGHT KIND of IRA. If your income is too high for a deductible traditional IRA, consider a backdoor Roth IRA instead. For both you and potentially your spouse. The income limits are different, and the tax advantages might be better depending on your situation.

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Andre Dupont

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Interesting point about the Roth. I thought there were income limits for Roth IRAs too? We're over $136k so wouldn't we be over the limit for direct Roth contributions as well? How does this backdoor thing work?

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NebulaNinja

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Yes, there are income limits for direct Roth IRA contributions too - for 2025, they phase out between $146,000-$156,000 for married filing jointly. The "backdoor Roth" method involves making a non-deductible contribution to a traditional IRA (which has no income limits) and then converting it to a Roth IRA. The conversion itself doesn't have income limits. The main benefit is that Roth IRA withdrawals are tax-free in retirement, whereas with a deductible traditional IRA, you'll pay taxes when you withdraw. For your non-working spouse, you have both options available since you're below the spousal IRA deduction threshold of $230k.

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quick tip: remember contribution deadline for 2025 tax year is April 15, 2026. u can contribute anytime from Jan 1 2025 up until then. make sure u specify which tax yr the contribution is for when u do it!!

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Also worth noting you can contribute for 2024 until April 15, 2025. So if you haven't maxed out 2024 contributions yet, you still have time to do that before starting on 2025.

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