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Asher Levin

Can my state's tax department deny credit for a mailed check they never cashed if I have proof of sending it?

I'm having a weird situation with my state tax department that's driving me crazy. Just got a notice claiming I owe unpaid taxes from 2023, plus penalties! I know for a fact we paid because I'm super careful about our tax stuff - I keep detailed records of everything and always pay on time. After going back and forth with my tax guy for days, we finally figured out what happened. The state never gave us credit for one of our quarterly estimated payments. I have a photo of the check I wrote and the certified mail receipt showing I sent it properly, just like I always do. Here's where it gets frustrating - I contacted my bank to get a copy of the canceled check, but they told me there's no record of it ever being cashed by the state. My tax guy says we technically still owe the original amount but could probably fight the penalties since we have proof we tried to pay. But I swear I remember my father (who worked in finance) telling me years ago that there was some court ruling that if you can prove you sent a check with certified mail and have a photo of it, the recipient HAS to give you credit for it whether they cashed it or not. Is this actually true? Has anyone dealt with something similar? I really don't want to pay this money twice!

Serene Snow

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So this is actually a common misconception. There's no universal court ruling that forces tax agencies to give you credit for a payment they never received just because you have proof of mailing. The legal standard is generally that you owe the tax until it's actually paid. That said, you're in a strong position to contest the penalties. Most state tax departments have reasonable cause provisions that allow penalties to be waived if you can demonstrate you made a good faith effort to comply. Your certified mail receipt and photo of the check should qualify as evidence of that good faith effort. For the underlying tax amount, you'll likely need to make that payment again. However, I'd recommend doing two things: First, request a formal hearing or appeal with the tax department where you present your evidence. Some states have more taxpayer-friendly policies than others. Second, make sure to stop payment on the original check if you haven't already, though after this long it may have already expired.

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What about the statute of limitations? Wouldn't that have run out for taxes from 2023 already? And what happens if the original check somehow gets cashed now after they've paid again? Seems like a mess!

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Serene Snow

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The statute of limitations for assessment of taxes typically ranges from 3-7 years depending on the state, so 2023 taxes would still be well within that window. Most states have at least a 3-year period to assess additional taxes or collect unpaid amounts. As for the original check, that's a valid concern. Most personal checks become stale after 6 months, though banks sometimes cash them anyway. I'd recommend explicitly stopping payment on the original check before paying again. There's usually a small fee for this, but it prevents the possibility of double payment. If by some chance both payments end up being processed, you'd be entitled to a refund of the overpayment, though you might have to jump through some hoops to get it.

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Romeo Barrett

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Justin Trejo

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Sounds too good to be true tbh. I've dealt with my state revenue department for years and they NEVER admit mistakes easily. What state was this in? Did you have to pay for this service?

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Alana Willis

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Tyler Murphy

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How does this even work? Do they just keep redialing or something? I've been trying to reach someone at my state revenue office for literally a month about an incorrect tax assessment.

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Sara Unger

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Sorry but this sounds like BS. I worked for a state tax agency and there's no magic way to get through the phone queues. Everyone has to wait their turn. How could some service possibly "skip the line" for you?

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Important point that no one has mentioned yet: make sure to find out your state's specific rules about what constitutes "payment." Some states consider a tax paid when the check is received, others when it's processed, and some only when it's actually deposited. In my state (Illinois), the law specifically says payment is considered made on the date received by the department. So having proof of mailing (certified mail receipt) establishes a presumption of receipt that can help your case. You might want to look up the specific regulations for your state. Also, document EVERYTHING in your communications with the tax department from this point forward. Names, dates, what was discussed, reference numbers. This can be crucial if you need to escalate.

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Freya Ross

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Is there any repository or website where you can look up these specific state rules? Trying to figure out what counts as "payment" in Colorado.

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You can usually find these rules in your state's tax code or administrative code, which should be available online through your state's legislative website or department of revenue site. Search for terms like "date of payment" or "timely payment" along with "tax." For Colorado specifically, I believe they follow what's known as the "timely mailed, timely filed" rule, which means the postmark date is considered the payment date if sent by U.S. mail. They also have specific provisions for electronic payments. You can find these details in the Colorado Revised Statutes and the Department of Revenue's tax regulations. Their taxpayer service division can also provide this information if you call them directly.

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Leslie Parker

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Just my two cents here, but isn't this why everyone should be paying their taxes electronically now? I haven't mailed a check for taxes in like 10 years. The confirmation codes from electronic payments have saved me multiple times when there were questions about whether I paid.

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Sergio Neal

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Electronic payments aren't always an option for everyone though. My small business has to make special estimated payments for a particular industry tax that our state still requires to be submitted by mail with a special voucher form. It's ridiculous but that's how they want it.

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Leslie Parker

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That's a fair point. I didn't consider that some specialized tax types might still require physical payments. In those cases, I'd probably still try to use my bank's bill pay service rather than writing personal checks, since the bank creates an electronic record of when the payment was sent out, which gives you an additional layer of documentation. It's frustrating that some tax departments haven't fully modernized their systems yet, especially for business-specific taxes. Hopefully more states move toward comprehensive electronic payment options soon, as it's clearly better for both the taxpayers and the tax departments in terms of record-keeping. Profile: 1

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