Can my mother use Qualifying Surviving Spouse filing status with an adult son who files his own taxes?
I'm helping my mom with her tax return and I'm totally confused about her filing status. Her husband (my stepdad) passed away back in 2021. My older brother (32) lives with her full-time and honestly contributes nothing - mom pays for everything including all his food, utilities, and he doesn't pay any rent. He's basically a freeloader but that's another story. When I used the IRS website tool to figure out her filing status, it said she qualifies as a Qualifying Surviving Spouse because my brother met some "excepted dependent rule" or something. But here's where I'm stuck - when I try to select QSS status in TurboTax, it's asking me to enter a dependent. The problem is my brother files his own tax return each year. So can she still use the Qualifying Surviving Spouse status and list him as a dependent even though he files taxes himself? Or is she just out of luck and has to file as single? The tax difference between these options is pretty significant so I want to make sure I get this right for her. Any help would be really appreciated!
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Jacob Lewis
Your mom might actually qualify for Qualifying Surviving Spouse (QSS) status, but there are specific requirements to understand here. For QSS status, your mom needs to meet these conditions: 1) Her spouse died in 2021 or 2022 (for 2023 tax year filing in 2024), 2) She hasn't remarried, 3) She has a "qualifying person" living with her, and 4) She paid more than half the cost of keeping up the home. The tricky part is the "qualifying person" requirement. Your brother can be considered a qualifying person under the "qualifying relative" rules even if he files his own return, as long as he meets certain criteria. The "excepted dependent rule" you mentioned likely refers to the fact that some dependents are excepted from the requirement that they not file a joint return. The most important thing to check is whether your brother meets the gross income test for being a qualifying relative. For 2023, if his gross income was $4,700 or more, he generally can't be claimed as your mom's dependent, which would disqualify her from using QSS status.
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Amelia Martinez
•Wait, I'm confused. I thought adult children who aren't disabled can't be qualifying relatives? My accountant told me that once they're over 24, they can't be claimed unless they're permanently disabled. Does the "qualifying person" for QSS have different rules than a regular dependent?
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Jacob Lewis
•The rules for qualifying persons for QSS are slightly different than the rules for qualifying children. You're thinking of the rules for qualifying children, which do have age limits (generally under 19, or under 24 if a full-time student). However, an adult child can still be a qualifying relative if they meet the tests: 1) They don't have to be related in certain ways (child qualifies), 2) They can't have gross income over $4,700 (for 2023), 3) The taxpayer must provide more than half their support, and 4) They must not be a qualifying child of any taxpayer. So if the brother's income is low enough, he could potentially qualify as a qualifying relative.
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Ethan Clark
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Mila Walker
•How does this work with someone who files their own return though? The original post mentioned the brother files his own taxes. Would that disqualify him from being a "qualifying person" for the mom's QSS status?
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Logan Scott
•I'm always skeptical of these online tax tools. Did it just tell you what you wanted to hear? How did you verify the information was correct before you actually filed with that status?
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Ethan Clark
•The fact that someone files their own return doesn't automatically disqualify them from being a qualifying person for QSS purposes. What matters most is whether they meet the gross income test (under $4,700 for 2023) and whether the parent provides more than half their support. The tool walks you through all these requirements step by step. I definitely understand the skepticism! I actually verified the information by cross-checking with IRS Publication 501 and even showed the documentation to my tax preparer who confirmed it was correct. The tool wasn't just giving me a simple yes/no answer - it showed exactly which sections of the tax code applied and why.
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Caden Nguyen
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - the Qualifying Surviving Spouse status is only available for the two tax years following the year of death. Since the husband died in 2021, the 2023 tax return (filed in 2024) would be the LAST year your mom could use QSS. Also, make sure you're looking at the right income threshold for your brother. It's not just whether he files his own return, but whether his gross income exceeds the threshold for being a qualifying relative ($4,700 for 2023 taxes). If he made more than that, he can't be your mom's qualifying person regardless of how much support she provides.
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Mia Rodriguez
•Thanks for pointing that out about the two-year limit! I think I got the year wrong in my original post - stepdad actually passed in 2021, not 2022, so this would indeed be the final year mom could use QSS status. My brother's income is definitely over that $4,700 threshold - he works part-time and makes around $18,000. Sounds like that automatically disqualifies him as a "qualifying person" for mom's QSS status then? So she'll have to file as single?
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Caden Nguyen
•Yes, if your brother's income is around $18,000, that unfortunately means he cannot be considered a qualifying relative for tax purposes, regardless of how much support your mom provides. The gross income test is a firm threshold. Since he can't be a qualifying person for QSS purposes, your mom will need to file as Single for her 2023 tax return. For 2024 and beyond, she'll continue filing as Single unless her circumstances change (like remarriage).
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Avery Flores
Friendly suggestion - even though it sounds like your mom won't qualify for QSS based on your brother's income level, she should look into whether she qualifies for Head of Household status instead! It's not as beneficial as QSS but still better than Single. For HOH, the rules are a bit different. She would need to pay more than half the cost of keeping up the home where a "qualifying person" lived for more than half the year. A qualifying person can be a qualifying child OR qualifying relative. Your brother probably fails the gross income test for being a qualifying relative, but if there are other relatives living with her (like a parent, or maybe a different child), they might qualify her for HOH.
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Zoe Gonzalez
•This is actually a really good point - a lot of people don't realize there's still hope for HoH status! I work at a tax prep office and see this misconception all the time. One correction though - for Head of Household, if you're trying to qualify using a relative who isn't your child, that person MUST be your dependent. So the brother still needs to meet the qualifying relative tests including the gross income test.
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