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Nathaniel Stewart

Can I use electric vehicle tax credit retroactively to offset outstanding IRS taxes?

Hey tax folks, I'm in a bit of a situation and wanted to see if anyone had insights before I bug my accountant with what might be a dumb question. So basically I got hit with a pretty hefty tax bill - around $10,500 that I still owe the IRS from my 2022 return. Had some unexpected crypto gains that really bumped up what I owed (ugh, lesson learned). I'm considering buying an electric vehicle soon (looking at a Ford Mustang Mach-E), and wondering if this purchase could actually help with my tax situation. Specifically, could I use any of the electric car tax credits to reduce this outstanding tax debt when I file my 2023 taxes early next year? Not trying to game the system or anything, just wondering if this is a legit strategy before I bring it to my accountant. If it would work, seems like a win-win - I get a new car AND reduce what I owe. Thanks for any advice!!

Riya Sharma

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This is actually a really good question! The EV tax credit (Clean Vehicle Credit) works as a non-refundable tax credit against your current tax year's liability - not retroactively against prior years. Here's how it works: If you purchase a qualifying electric vehicle in 2023, the credit (up to $7,500 depending on the vehicle and your income) would apply to your 2023 tax liability when you file in early 2024. It wouldn't directly offset your outstanding 2022 tax debt. However, there might be an indirect benefit. If the EV credit reduces your 2023 tax bill significantly, you could potentially use the money you save on 2023 taxes to pay down your 2022 debt. Just keep in mind that the 2022 debt will continue accruing interest and possible penalties until paid.

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Santiago Diaz

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Thanks for the explanation! Quick follow-up question - does the EV tax credit only work if you owe taxes for that year? Like what if I'm usually getting a refund? Also, do all electric cars qualify for the full $7,500 or does it vary by model?

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Riya Sharma

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The EV tax credit only reduces taxes you owe for that specific tax year - it's non-refundable, meaning if your tax liability is less than the credit amount, you don't get the difference back. So if you're typically getting a refund because your withholdings exceed your tax liability, the credit might not benefit you fully unless you adjust your withholdings to account for it. Vehicle eligibility varies significantly by model, battery size, final assembly location, and now battery component sourcing. Many vehicles only qualify for partial credits due to the new restrictions from the Inflation Reduction Act. The Mach-E currently qualifies for the full $7,500, but this can change, so always check the latest IRS list before purchasing.

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Millie Long

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KaiEsmeralda

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That sounds useful but I'm a bit suspicious of these tax tools. Did it actually match what your accountant told you or did it miss anything important? I've been burned by online calculators before.

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Debra Bai

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Does this tool factor in the changing EV credit rules? I heard the requirements keep shifting about battery components and where cars are assembled. Also, can it tell you when a manufacturer is about to hit their production limit for the credit?

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Millie Long

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It absolutely matched what my accountant told me - actually my accountant was impressed with how accurate and current the information was. The difference was I understood everything clearly before our meeting, which saved me billable hours of him explaining the basics. The tool stays constantly updated with changing credit requirements including the assembly location and battery component sourcing requirements. It actually has a manufacturer tracker that shows which companies are approaching production limits, though with the new Inflation Reduction Act changes, those manufacturer caps are going away in 2023 and being replaced with the sourcing requirements.

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Debra Bai

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Laura Lopez

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if you buy that electric vehicle, make sure you're aware of the income limits for the credit. If your modified AGI is above $300k for married filing jointly or $150k for single filers, the credit starts phasing out. Considering you had big capital gains last year, this might affect your eligibility.

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Wait, I thought those income limits were just for the used EV credit? Are you sure they apply to new vehicles too? I was counting on getting that credit this year...

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You're partly right - the income limits do differ between new and used EVs. For new vehicles, the limits are $300k for married filing jointly, $225k for head of household, and $150k for single filers. For used EVs (which have a smaller credit of up to $4,000), the income limits are lower: $150k for married filing jointly, $112,500 for head of household, and $75k for single filers. Since the original poster was talking about a new vehicle, my numbers were correct, but it's a great point that there are different thresholds depending on whether you're buying new or used. Always good to double-check your specific situation!

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Has anyone actually received their EV tax credit for cars purchased in 2023 yet? I bought mine in March and my tax guy says there might be additional forms or verification required this year because of all the new restrictions.

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JaylinCharles

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You don't "receive" it until you file your 2023 taxes in 2024. The dealer should have given you documentation about the vehicle's eligibility that you'll need to include with your tax return. Form 8936 is what you'll need to fill out, but 2023 version might look different with all the new requirements.

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Jay Lincoln

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Just wanted to add some clarity on the timing aspect since I went through something similar last year. The key thing to understand is that tax credits are year-specific - they can only offset the tax liability for the year the qualifying event occurred. So if you buy the EV in 2023, that credit applies to your 2023 tax return (filed in 2024). It won't touch your 2022 debt at all. However, if that EV credit significantly reduces what you'd owe for 2023, you could potentially use those savings to make a larger payment toward your 2022 balance. Also worth noting - the IRS charges interest on unpaid balances, so the sooner you can pay down that $10,500, the better. You might want to explore setting up an installment agreement while you're figuring out your EV purchase timeline. The interest rate is usually much better than credit cards if you need to bridge any gaps. One last tip: if you do decide on the Mach-E, double-check its current eligibility status right before purchase. The battery component requirements have been changing, and what qualifies today might not qualify next month.

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