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Val Rossi

Can I use Installment sale method for selling stock from my S Corporation?

I've been running my S Corporation for about 12 years now and I'm considering selling some stock from the business. I own 100% of the company and was thinking about using the installment method for the sale to spread out the tax hit over multiple years. When I was looking at Publication 537, I got a bit confused. It seems to exclude "securities traded on an established market" from using the installment method. The way I understand this, it refers to publicly traded stocks. Since my S Corp is privately held and not traded on any public exchange, I think I might still be eligible to use the installment method. Does anyone know for sure if I can sell stock from my 100% owned S Corporation under the installment method? I'd really appreciate some guidance here since the tax implications are significant for me. I'm planning to sell about 30% of the business initially to a potential buyer who's interested in eventually taking over completely.

Eve Freeman

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You're on the right track with your understanding. Publication 537 does exclude "securities traded on an established market" from installment sale treatment, but this generally refers to publicly traded securities - stocks traded on exchanges like NYSE or NASDAQ. Since your S Corporation is privately held and not traded on any public market, you should be eligible to use the installment method for the sale of your stock. This can be a smart tax strategy as it allows you to spread the recognition of gain over multiple years rather than paying tax on the full amount in the year of sale. Keep in mind that you'll need to properly document the transaction with an installment sale agreement that clearly outlines the terms, including the sales price, down payment, and payment schedule. You'll report the sale on Form 6252 (Installment Sale Income) when you file your taxes.

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Thanks for the explanation. I'm in a similar situation but wondering about recapture rules with installment sales. If there's been depreciation on S Corp assets, does that get recaptured all in year 1 even with an installment sale? Or does that get spread out too?

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Eve Freeman

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Regarding depreciation recapture - that's an important consideration. Any depreciation recapture under Sections 1245 or 1250 must generally be recognized in the year of sale, even if you're using the installment method for the rest of the gain. This means the recapture portion can't be spread out over time. For example, if you've taken depreciation on business equipment or property owned by the S Corp, that portion of the gain is recaptured and taxed in the first year. Only the remaining portion of the gain can be reported using the installment method over multiple years.

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Caden Turner

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How quickly did you get your answer from them? I'm trying to close a deal in the next two weeks and need answers fast about a similar situation with my family business shares.

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Harmony Love

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Did they help with the actual form preparation too? Or just tell you if you were eligible? I'm looking at selling some of my business interests but I'm confused about how to actually fill out Form 6252 correctly to avoid audit flags.

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Caden Turner

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Harmony Love

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Rudy Cenizo

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Sienna Gomez

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Be careful about one thing with installment sales of S corporation stock that hasn't been mentioned yet - the built-in gains tax that might apply if your S corporation was previously a C corporation and converted within the last 5 or 7 years (depending on when the conversion happened). If that's the case, you could be subject to corporate-level tax on the installment sale, which would defeat much of the benefit. I learned this the hard way when selling my manufacturing business a few years back.

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Does the built-in gains tax still apply even if the S corp has been an S corp for like 20 years? Never was a C corp before. Also, is there a certain holding period for the stock to qualify for installment treatment?

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Sienna Gomez

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If your S corporation has been an S corporation from inception or converted from a C corporation more than 5-7 years ago (depending on when the conversion occurred), then you don't need to worry about the built-in gains tax. That only applies to companies that converted from C to S status within that recognition period. There's no specific holding period for the stock to qualify for installment treatment. The installment method is available regardless of how long you've held the stock, as long as the securities aren't traded on an established market. The holding period affects the tax rate you might pay (long-term vs. short-term capital gains), but not eligibility for installment reporting.

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I think everyone is overlooking something important - when you sell S corporation stock, you're not just selling stock, you're selling your pro-rata share of the company's assets. If there are "hot assets" like inventory or receivables, those portions can't use the installment method regardless. The IRS will treat those as ordinary income in the year of sale. Make sure you get professional help with the allocation of the sales price across different asset classes. The installment method might work for goodwill and certain capital assets, but not for everything.

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Isn't that only for partnerships though? I thought S corps were different and you're just selling your stock, not the underlying assets? Now I'm really confused.

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I got audited on exactly this issue back in 2022! Had to pay penalties because my accountant didn't properly allocate the assets in the sale of my landscaping business. Def get professional help on this!!

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Amina Toure

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You're absolutely right to be thinking about the installment method for your S Corp stock sale - it can be a great tax planning strategy. Since your S Corporation is privately held and not traded on any established market, you should indeed be eligible to use the installment method under Section 453. One thing I'd recommend is getting a professional valuation of your business before structuring the sale, especially since you mentioned the buyer is interested in eventually taking over completely. This will help establish a defensible sales price and ensure you're maximizing the benefit of spreading the gain over multiple years. Also, make sure your installment agreement includes appropriate interest provisions - the IRS requires imputed interest on deferred payments, so you'll want to use at least the applicable federal rate to avoid any complications. Since this is a significant transaction representing 30% of your business, I'd strongly suggest consulting with a tax professional who has experience with installment sales of closely-held business interests. They can help you navigate any potential complications and ensure all the documentation is properly structured.

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Liam Sullivan

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Great point about the professional valuation! I'm new to this whole process and hadn't thought about that aspect. When you mention "appropriate interest provisions" - is there a specific rate we need to use, or does it vary based on the payment terms? Also, do you know if there are any special considerations if the buyer wants to structure it as an earn-out based on future business performance rather than fixed payments?

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CosmicVoyager

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For the interest rate, you'll need to use at least the Applicable Federal Rate (AFR) that's published monthly by the IRS. The specific rate depends on the term of your installment payments - short-term (3 years or less), mid-term (over 3 but not over 9 years), or long-term (over 9 years). You can find the current rates on the IRS website under Section 1274. Regarding earn-outs based on future performance - that gets much more complicated for installment sale treatment. The IRS generally requires that you be able to determine the total selling price, even if some payments are contingent. With performance-based earn-outs, you might not qualify for installment treatment on the contingent portion since the total consideration can't be determined at the time of sale. However, you might be able to structure it as a fixed minimum payment (eligible for installment treatment) plus separate contingent payments that would be taxed when received. This is definitely an area where you'll want expert guidance since the tax implications can vary significantly based on how the agreement is structured.

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Madison Tipne

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Val, you're correct that private S Corporation stock should qualify for installment sale treatment since it's not traded on an established market. However, I'd recommend getting clarification on a few key points before proceeding: 1. **Basis calculation** - Make sure you have clear documentation of your adjusted basis in the S Corp stock, including any loans you've made to the company that might affect your basis. 2. **Payment structure** - The installment agreement needs to specify the total sales price, payment schedule, and interest rate (at least the applicable federal rate). Even though payments are deferred, the total consideration must be determinable. 3. **S Corp elections** - Verify that selling 30% won't inadvertently terminate your S election due to ownership restrictions, especially if the buyer isn't eligible to be an S Corp shareholder. 4. **State tax implications** - Some states don't conform to federal installment sale treatment, so you might face different timing for state taxes. Given the complexity and significant tax implications you mentioned, I'd strongly suggest consulting with a tax professional experienced in S Corp transactions before finalizing the structure. The potential tax savings from proper planning could far exceed the cost of professional guidance.

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Emma Wilson

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This is really helpful, especially the point about S Corp election termination - I hadn't considered that risk. Quick question on the basis calculation - if I've been taking distributions over the years that exceeded my basis, would that affect my ability to use installment treatment? I'm wondering if there are any "phantom income" issues I should be aware of when the payments come in over multiple years. Also, regarding state conformity - do you know which states typically don't follow federal installment sale rules? I'm in California and want to make sure I'm not setting myself up for a surprise tax bill at the state level.

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