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Norman Fraser

Can I get clarification on US-Source income for NRA LLC federal income tax requirements?

I've been researching LLCs in the US for non-resident aliens (NRAs) and understand they offer advantages depending on the state (Delaware, Wyoming, New Mexico, etc.) where you don't pay state taxes, but only federal income tax. I'm confused about how the pass-through taxation works for NRAs. Originally, I thought the LLC itself doesn't pay taxes because of the pass-through structure, and the LLC members just pay income tax in their home countries. So my first question is: are these federal income taxes mentioned for NRA-owned LLCs still subject to pass-through taxation (meaning I'd pay them as personal income tax in my home country)? That doesn't seem right though - why would a non-resident pay US federal income tax on personal income? I also read that federal income taxes apply to the LLC (not passed through) ONLY when the income is US-sourced. As a non-native English speaker, I'm trying to understand what qualifies as "US-Source income." If I'm a software developer working for US companies who pay my LLC, does that count as US-sourced income? I've been trying to find clear information online but still confused.

Kendrick Webb

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The question of US-source income for NRA-owned LLCs can definitely be confusing! Let me try to clarify: An LLC with NRA owners is treated differently than one with US owners. While LLCs are typically pass-through entities, the IRS treats a single-member LLC owned by an NRA as a separate entity for tax purposes (not disregarded). For federal tax purposes, an NRA is only taxed on income that is "effectively connected" with a US trade or business (ECI) or certain types of US-source fixed or determinable annual or periodical income (FDAP). If you're providing software development services to US clients, but performing that work physically outside the US, this generally wouldn't be considered US-source income or ECI. The source of service income is typically where the services are physically performed, not where the customer is located. However, if you're physically present in the US while performing those services, that would create US-source income subject to US taxation.

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Norman Fraser

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Thank you for explaining! So if I'm living in Europe and my LLC is registered in Wyoming, but all my clients are US-based companies, I'm not generating US-source income because the work is physically performed outside the US? What about passive income like royalties from software I create, or if I have some kind of SaaS product that US customers pay for monthly? Would that be considered US-source?

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Kendrick Webb

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If you're physically in Europe while performing the development work, then yes - even with US clients, that income generally wouldn't be US-source because services are sourced where physically performed. For passive income like royalties or SaaS subscriptions, it gets more complex. Royalties paid by US persons for the right to use intellectual property in the US are considered US-source income. Similarly, SaaS subscription income could be considered partly US-source if your software is being used in the US. This type of income might be subject to a 30% withholding tax, though this rate can be reduced by tax treaties depending on your country of residence.

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Rajan Walker

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Something important nobody mentioned yet: many countries have tax treaties with the US that can affect how your LLC income is treated. In my case (UK citizen with Wyoming LLC), our tax treaty has specific provisions about what constitutes a "permanent establishment" and how business profits are taxed. Check if your country has a tax treaty with the US and read those specific provisions. For example, in some treaties, technical services might be treated differently than other services regarding source rules.

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Do you know how to determine which treaty benefits apply? I'm in Canada with a Delaware LLC, and I've heard we have a good treaty, but the actual text is like reading another language. Is there a simple way to know which parts matter for my situation?

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Rajan Walker

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The easiest way to determine applicable treaty benefits is to look at the technical explanation that accompanies most treaties. For the US-Canada treaty specifically, there are provisions in Article VII about business profits that would likely apply to your LLC. The key is identifying your specific type of income (services, royalties, etc.) and then finding the corresponding article in the treaty. For Canadian residents with US LLCs, you generally won't be taxed on business profits unless you have a "permanent establishment" in the US - which usually means a fixed place of business like an office.

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Quick question about filing requirements - even if my NRA LLC doesn't have US-source income, do I still need to file anything with the IRS? I've heard conflicting things about Form 5472 requirements.

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Kendrick Webb

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Yes, there are filing requirements even without US-source income. If your LLC is treated as a "disregarded entity" and is 25% or more foreign-owned, you must file Form 5472 along with a pro-forma Form 1120 annually. This is required under relatively new regulations, and the penalties for non-filing are steep ($25,000+ per violation). This filing requirement applies even if you have zero US-source income and owe no US tax. It's primarily an information reporting requirement to track foreign ownership of US entities.

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