Can I file as married filing jointly with my U.S. citizen wife who lives abroad and babysits?
Hey tax folks, I'm in a bit of a weird situation and could use some advice. I married my wife about 2 years ago, but we're currently doing the long distance thing as she's a U.S. citizen who has lived outside the country for pretty much her entire life. She started working last year doing some babysitting gigs, which I think would count as self-employment income? From what I understand, since she's a U.S. citizen, I should be able to file jointly with her and she would be taxed as a resident even though she's living abroad. This is our first time dealing with this situation, and I'm honestly pretty confused about how to handle it properly. I've tried looking online, but most of the information I find seems to be focused on different scenarios than ours. Has anyone dealt with filing jointly with a spouse who's a U.S. citizen living abroad with self-employment income? Any advice would be super appreciated!
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DeShawn Washington
You're on the right track! As a U.S. citizen, your wife is subject to U.S. tax reporting requirements regardless of where she lives in the world. And yes, you can file as married filing jointly even if she lives abroad. Since she's earning income through babysitting, that would indeed be considered self-employment income. This means she'll need to file Schedule C to report her business income and expenses, and she'll also be subject to self-employment tax (Social Security and Medicare taxes). One thing to be aware of: if she's earning income in another country, she may qualify for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (Form 2555) which could exclude up to $120,000 (for 2023) of her foreign earnings from U.S. income tax. However, this doesn't exempt her from self-employment tax unless there's a totalization agreement between the U.S. and the country she's in. Also, if she has foreign bank accounts with a combined value over $10,000 at any point during the year, you'll need to file an FBAR (FinCEN Form 114).
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Mei-Ling Chen
•Wait, so even if the wife makes like a super small amount babysitting (like under $1000 for the year), they still have to deal with all these forms? That seems like overkill. Is there a minimum amount before all these complicated rules kick in?
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DeShawn Washington
•Yes, there are some thresholds to be aware of. For self-employment income, if her net earnings are $400 or more for the year, she must file a tax return and pay self-employment tax. If she earns less than that, she may not need to file Schedule C or pay self-employment tax. As for the FBAR reporting requirement, that's based on the highest combined value of all foreign financial accounts during the year. If the total never exceeds $10,000, then no FBAR filing is needed. However, U.S. citizens should still report worldwide income regardless of the amount.
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Aaliyah Jackson
Something to consider that no one has mentioned yet - if your wife is earning babysitting income in her country of residence, she might also have tax obligations there! I learned this the hard way when my wife was teaching English in Japan. Just because she's a US citizen doesn't mean she's exempt from local tax laws where she physically works. You'll need to look into the tax treaty between the US and her country to understand how to avoid double taxation.
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Lena Kowalski
•That's a really good point that I hadn't even considered! She's currently living in Australia and I have no idea what their rules are for small self-employment income like babysitting. Would we need to file tax returns in both countries then? And how does that work with the tax treaty stuff?
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Aaliyah Jackson
•Australia definitely taxes residents on worldwide income, so yes, she likely needs to file there too. The good news is that the US and Australia have a comprehensive tax treaty. If she pays taxes in Australia, you can generally claim a Foreign Tax Credit on your US return using Form 1116 to offset US taxes on that same income. This helps prevent double taxation. Australia has a tax-free threshold of about 18,200 AUD, so if she's making less than that from babysitting, she might not owe Australian taxes anyway.
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KylieRose
One more thing to think about - if your wife has any foreign bank accounts and you're filing jointly, you both need to report ALL foreign accounts on the FBAR form, even if they're only in her name. The threshold is $10k combined across all accounts at any point during the year. And just fyi, the penalties for not filing FBAR when required are CRAZY high, even for innocent mistakes. Like potentially $10k per violation.
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Miguel Hernández
•This FBAR stuff is terrifying! I've been doing my taxes myself for years and just found out about this requirement. Is there any kind of amnesty program if you've messed up in previous years? Also, does it matter if the account has barely any money in it?
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