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Can I deduct indirect donations like paying expenses for a charity? What about when the charity recognizes it as revenue?

Title: Can I deduct indirect donations like paying expenses for a charity? What about when the charity recognizes it as revenue? 1 I'm trying to figure out the tax implications of paying for expenses on behalf of a charity instead of donating directly. From what I understand, donations are typically only tax deductible when given directly to the charity, right? But here's what's confusing me - I recently attended a fundraiser where the charity listed "in-kind contributions" in their program, specifically noting that some company had covered all the catering costs for the event. The charity recognized this as contribution revenue in their materials. This seems contradictory to me. If I pay a vendor $3,500 directly for a charity's expense (like their catering bill), can I claim that as a deduction on my taxes? And how can the charity recognize revenue for something they never actually received directly? I've searched online but haven't found clear answers about this situation. Any tax experts want to weigh in? Really appreciate any insights!

7 This is a great question about indirect charitable contributions! The answer comes down to documentation and intent. When you pay an expense directly on behalf of a qualified charity, it CAN be tax-deductible to you IF handled correctly. The key is proper documentation showing that the payment was intended as a donation to the charity (not just paying a bill). The best practice is to have the charity acknowledge in writing that you made this contribution on their behalf. They should provide you with a donation receipt showing the amount and confirming it was a charitable contribution. This documentation is critical for your tax deduction. From the charity's perspective, they absolutely should recognize this as in-kind revenue. When you pay their catering bill directly, you're providing them with a service/goods they would otherwise have to pay for themselves. That's a legitimate contribution to their operation.

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12 Thanks for the explanation! So if I understand correctly, I need to get something in writing from the charity acknowledging my payment? What if I already paid for something (like renting tables for their event) but didn't think to ask for documentation at the time? Is it too late to claim the deduction?

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7 It's not too late! Contact the charity and explain the situation. Ask them to provide you with a donation acknowledgment letter that specifies the date, amount, and purpose of your payment (the table rental). Most charities are familiar with this process and should be able to provide this documentation. For any payment over $250, the IRS requires you to have written acknowledgment from the charity before filing your return. Make sure the letter states that you received no goods or services in return (or specifies the value of anything you did receive). Keep this documentation with your tax records in case of an audit.

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3 Tax accountant here - just want to clarify a few things about indirect charitable contributions: 1. The key factor is substantiation. You need to document that your payment was intended as a donation, not just a purchase. 2. The charity should provide a written acknowledgment specifying the amount, date, and charitable purpose. 3. For payments made directly to third-party vendors, keep copies of the invoice showing the charity as the beneficiary, proof of payment, and the charity's written acknowledgment. 4. The charity should definitely record this as an in-kind contribution in their books. This is standard accounting practice. 5. There are special rules for donated services (like your professional time) which generally aren't deductible, but that's different from paying a vendor for services provided to a charity.

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16 What about auction items? If I donate an item worth $500 to a charity auction and someone buys it for $300, who gets the tax deduction and for how much? Is it me for $500, the buyer for $300, or something else entirely?

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3 For auction items, the original donor (you) can deduct the fair market value of the item ($500 in your example), provided you have documentation of the item's value and a receipt from the charity acknowledging the donation. The buyer generally cannot claim a charitable deduction for their purchase unless they paid more than fair market value. In your example, since they paid $300 for something worth $500, they received a $500 value for a $300 payment, so they don't get a deduction. If they had paid $700 for the $500 item, they could potentially deduct the $200 excess as a charitable contribution.

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8 Quick question for anyone who knows - what about when it's a service donation? My company provides graphic design services to several nonprofits for free (designing their event materials, brochures, etc.). We never charge them, but it's work we'd normally bill at about $8,000 annually. Can we deduct the value of these services as a charitable contribution?

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11 Unfortunately, donated services are not tax-deductible, even though they're valuable to the charity. I learned this the hard way as a web developer who built websites for nonprofits. You can only deduct actual expenses you incur while providing those services (like if you had to buy special software or materials specifically for the nonprofit work).

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Diego Rojas

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That's correct - the IRS doesn't allow deductions for donated services or time, regardless of your professional hourly rate. However, you can deduct any out-of-pocket expenses you incur while providing those services. For example, if you purchase stock photos, special fonts, or printing materials specifically for the nonprofit's projects, those costs would be deductible as charitable contributions. Just make sure to keep receipts and get acknowledgment from the charity for any expenses over $250.

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Jabari-Jo

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As someone who regularly volunteers for nonprofit events, I've dealt with this exact situation multiple times. The key thing that helped me was creating a simple system for tracking these indirect donations throughout the year. I keep a dedicated folder (both physical and digital) for all charity-related expenses. Whenever I pay for something on behalf of a nonprofit - whether it's supplies, venue costs, or equipment rental - I immediately: 1. Take a photo of the receipt and save it with the charity's name and date 2. Send a brief email to the charity coordinator explaining what I paid for and requesting written acknowledgment 3. Follow up within a week if I don't receive confirmation This has saved me countless hours during tax season and helped me recover deductions I would have otherwise missed. Last year alone, I was able to deduct over $2,800 in expenses I had paid directly to vendors for three different nonprofits I support. The charities are usually very accommodating about providing the necessary documentation - they understand it's important for their donors and it helps them keep accurate records too.

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This is such a helpful systematic approach! I'm embarrassed to admit I've been haphazardly handling my charity expenses - usually just stuffing receipts in a drawer and hoping I remember what they were for come tax time. Your folder system makes so much sense, especially the part about immediately requesting acknowledgment. I bet most of us volunteers lose out on legitimate deductions simply because we don't have proper documentation. Do you have a template email you use when requesting acknowledgment from charities? I'd love to streamline this process for myself.

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Michael Adams

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Absolutely! I'd be happy to share my template. Here's what I typically send: "Hi [Charity Contact Name], I recently made a payment on behalf of [Charity Name] for [specific item/service] in the amount of $[amount] on [date]. The payment was made directly to [vendor name] as a charitable contribution to support your organization. Could you please provide written acknowledgment of this donation for my tax records? I need confirmation that includes: - The date and amount of the contribution ($[amount]) - A statement that I received no goods or services in exchange for this contribution - Your organization's tax-exempt status/EIN if possible Thank you for all the great work you do in our community! Best regards, [Your name]" I keep this template saved in my phone's notes app so I can quickly customize and send it right after making any charity-related purchases. Most organizations respond within a few days with the proper documentation. It's made tax season so much less stressful!

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Yara Campbell

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This is incredibly helpful information! I've been volunteering with a local animal rescue and have paid for supplies, transport costs, and even veterinary bills for animals in their care. I never realized I could potentially deduct these expenses if I got proper documentation from the rescue organization. One thing I'm wondering about - what happens with mileage? I drive about 200 miles per month transporting animals to adoption events, vet appointments, and foster homes. I know there's a standard mileage rate for charitable work, but do I need special documentation for that too, or is just keeping a mileage log sufficient? Also, does anyone know if there are limits on how much you can deduct for charitable contributions in a single tax year? I'm realizing my animal rescue expenses might add up to quite a bit when I include all the supplies, mileage, and occasional emergency vet payments I've made.

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Rachel Clark

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Great questions about mileage and deduction limits! For charitable mileage, you can use the standard rate (14 cents per mile for 2023) and you just need to keep a detailed log showing dates, destinations, miles driven, and charitable purpose. No special acknowledgment needed from the charity for mileage. Regarding limits - there are annual caps on charitable deductions. For 2023, you can generally deduct up to 60% of your adjusted gross income for cash donations to qualified charities, and 30% for certain types of property donations. Your animal rescue expenses would likely fall under the 60% category. If you exceed the limit in one year, you can carry forward the excess deduction for up to 5 years. Given your level of involvement, you might want to track everything carefully - those transport miles, supplies, and vet bills could really add up to significant tax savings! Just make sure to get written acknowledgment from the rescue for any single expense over $250.

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This thread has been incredibly educational! As someone who's been casually volunteering and occasionally paying for small expenses, I had no idea there was such a structured way to handle charitable deductions for indirect donations. I'm particularly interested in the documentation aspect that everyone keeps mentioning. It sounds like the key is getting written acknowledgment from the charity, but I'm wondering - is there a specific timeframe for requesting this documentation? For instance, if I paid for something 6 months ago but didn't think to ask for acknowledgment at the time, is it still valid to request it now? Also, I noticed someone mentioned different rules for different dollar amounts ($250 threshold). Could someone clarify what the documentation requirements are for smaller amounts versus larger contributions? I tend to make a lot of small purchases (supplies under $100 each) rather than big single expenses, so I want to make sure I'm handling these correctly. Thanks to everyone who's shared their experiences and templates - this is exactly the kind of practical advice that's hard to find elsewhere!

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Great questions! There's actually no specific IRS deadline for requesting acknowledgment letters from charities - you can ask for documentation months after making the payment. I've successfully requested acknowledgment letters up to a year after making donations, and most charities are happy to provide them since they help both parties maintain accurate records. For the dollar thresholds, here's what you need to know: - Under $250: You only need a receipt or bank record showing the payment to or for the charity - $250 and above: You must have written acknowledgment from the charity before filing your return - Over $500 (for property donations): Additional forms may be required For your small purchases under $100, keep your receipts and make sure they clearly show the charitable purpose. Even though written acknowledgment isn't required for amounts under $250, it's still good practice to get it since it makes everything cleaner if you're ever audited. One tip: consider batching your small purchases when requesting acknowledgment. You can ask the charity to acknowledge multiple small expenses in a single letter, which saves time for both of you while still meeting IRS requirements.

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