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Emma Davis

Can I claim section 179 deduction from my side-business against w-2 income? Tax software rejecting it

I'm getting so frustrated with my taxes this year. I work full-time at an accounting firm (ironic, I know) but I also run a small photography business on the side. Last year I invested in some new camera equipment for about $8,500 and I was planning to take the section 179 deduction to write it all off at once. Here's my issue - when I try to enter this in TurboTax, it's telling me I can't use the section 179 deduction against my W-2 income? My side business only made about $4,200 this year (before expenses), so if I can only deduct against that income, I'm losing out on a big portion of the deduction. I thought section 179 could be used against any income source, not just the business income. My coworker (not a tax specialist though) said I should be able to use it against my W-2 income since it's all on the same tax return. Is the software right or is this a glitch? Do I need to look into a different tax prep option? Any help would be super appreciated because I'm about ready to throw my laptop out the window!

LunarLegend

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The tax software is actually correct on this one. Section 179 deductions from a side business can only offset income from that specific business or other self-employment activities. You can't use these deductions to offset your W-2 income from your accounting firm job. The confusion might be coming from the fact that business losses in general can sometimes offset other income, but Section 179 has special limitations. If your business shows a loss after regular business deductions, that loss can potentially offset other income. However, Section 179 deductions specifically cannot create or increase a business loss that offsets other income. Since your photography business only made $4,200, that's the maximum you could potentially deduct using Section 179 this year. But the good news is that any amount you can't deduct this year doesn't disappear - you can carry it forward to future tax years when your business hopefully generates more income.

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Malik Jackson

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Wait, I'm confused. I thought once you combine all your income on Form 1040, it all just becomes "income" that can be offset by any deductions? So we have to track which deductions go against which income sources? What about regular depreciation instead of Section 179?

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LunarLegend

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Different types of deductions have different rules about what income they can offset. Business deductions generally offset business income first, and only after that can potentially offset other income types, but Section 179 has specific limitations. Regular depreciation is different from Section 179. If you chose regular depreciation instead of Section 179 for your equipment, you'd spread the deduction over several years (the useful life of the equipment), but those deductions could potentially be part of a business loss that offsets other income. This is because regular depreciation isn't subject to the same limitations as Section 179.

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Ravi Patel

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How exactly does this work? Do you have to talk to someone on the phone or is it all online? I'm worried about sharing my tax documents with some random website.

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Ravi Patel

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Omar Zaki

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How does this actually work though? Do they just have some special connection to the IRS that lets them skip the line or something? That doesn't seem possible.

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Yeah right. If it was that easy to get through to the IRS everyone would do it. I spent 4 hours on hold last month only to be disconnected. No way they can magically get through when millions of people can't.

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Omar Zaki

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I need to eat my words and apologize to Profile 9. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try Claimyr myself since I was still dealing with an unresolved business expense issue similar to the original poster's. I couldn't believe it actually worked. I signed up around 8:30am, and by 10am I was talking to an actual IRS representative. They connected me right when the agent picked up - no waiting on hold at all on my end. The IRS agent confirmed that for my situation (web design side business), I needed to limit Section 179 deductions to my business income. The agent also suggested I look into carrying forward the excess deduction amount to future tax years, which I didn't even know was possible. This one phone call resolved a issue I've been stressing about for weeks. Definitely worth it just for the time saved and frustration avoided.

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Diego Flores

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Another option you might consider is using bonus depreciation instead of Section 179. For 2025, bonus depreciation is at 80% (down from 100% in previous years), but the key difference is that bonus depreciation CAN create or increase a net operating loss that offsets other income types. So if your business only made $4,200, you could potentially still deduct a larger portion of your $8,500 equipment purchase in the first year using bonus depreciation rather than Section 179.

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Emma Davis

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Would the bonus depreciation option work with most tax software packages? I'm currently using TurboTax but willing to switch if needed. Also, would this create any red flags for audit compared to just using regular depreciation?

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Diego Flores

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Most major tax software packages like TurboTax, H&R Block, and TaxAct should handle bonus depreciation correctly. You'll just need to make sure you select that option instead of Section 179 when entering your business assets. Using bonus depreciation instead of Section 179 doesn't increase audit risk on its own - it's a completely legitimate tax strategy. The key is making sure you properly document your business use of the equipment and that the equipment qualifies for bonus depreciation. Generally, new equipment purchased for business use will qualify, but it's always good to keep receipts, logs of business use, and documentation about how the equipment is used in your photography business.

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I'm kinda confused by some of the comments here. I've been using Section 179 for years in my consulting business to offset my regular W-2 income. My accountant has never mentioned this limitation. Is this something new for 2025??

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Sean Flanagan

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Your accountant is either making a mistake or there's something different about your situation. The rule about Section 179 not creating or increasing a business loss has been around for many years - it's in IRC Section 179(b)(3). If you're using Section 179 deductions that exceed your business income to offset W-2 income, that's not correct according to tax law. You might want to ask your accountant to explain specifically how they're doing this, or maybe get a second opinion. The only way this works is if your business is profitable enough that even after taking the Section the179 deduction, you still have positive business income.

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Ryder Greene

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I think there's some confusion in this thread that needs clearing up. Emma, your TurboTax software is absolutely correct - Section 179 deductions cannot be used to create or increase a business loss that offsets other income like your W-2 wages. However, I want to clarify something important: if your photography business shows a net loss AFTER regular business expenses (not including Section 179), that loss CAN potentially offset your W-2 income. The key is that Section 179 specifically has this limitation, but other business deductions don't. For your situation with $4,200 in business income and $8,500 in equipment, here's what I'd suggest: Use Section 179 for up to $4,200 worth of equipment, then either use bonus depreciation (as Diego mentioned) or regular depreciation for the remaining $4,300. This way you get the immediate write-off for part of it while staying compliant with the rules. Also, don't forget that any unused Section 179 deduction carries forward to future years when your business hopefully generates more income. It's not lost forever!

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Amina Sy

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This is really helpful clarification, thank you! So just to make sure I understand correctly - if I have $4,200 in business income and let's say $2,000 in regular business expenses (office supplies, advertising, etc.), my net business income would be $2,200. I could then use Section 179 for up to $2,200 of equipment, not the full $4,200 in gross income? And any remaining equipment cost would need to use bonus depreciation or regular depreciation to potentially create a loss that offsets my W-2 income?

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