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Ethan Clark

Can I Deduct My Rental Property Losses From W2 Income If I'm Actively Participating?

My spouse and I both have full-time jobs and our combined income is around $650k annually. We invested in our first rental property back in March 2024 but had some issues getting tenants right away. The place sat empty for about 3 months before we finally found good renters. During that time, we were still paying mortgage, HOA fees, and put about $8k into new appliances and window treatments to make it more appealing. We were hands-on with the entire process - interviewing potential tenants, handling all the paperwork, making decisions about repairs, etc. No property manager involved. I'm trying to figure out if we can use these rental property losses to offset any of our W2 income when we file our 2024 taxes. I've been reading the IRS guidelines that mention something about "active participation" allowing you to deduct up to $25k in rental real estate losses against non-passive income. But then I also read something about income limits that might disqualify us. Does anyone know if we qualify for this deduction given our income level and involvement with the property? I'm hoping we can at least get some tax benefit from those initial months of expenses.

StarStrider

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That's a great question about rental property losses! Unfortunately, while you do qualify for "active participation" because you made management decisions about the property (tenant selection, improvements, etc.), you won't be able to deduct those losses against your W2 income because of your income level. The $25,000 rental real estate loss allowance begins to phase out when your modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) exceeds $100,000 and completely disappears when it reaches $150,000. Since your household income is around $650k, you're well above this threshold. However, don't worry - these losses aren't "lost" forever. They become suspended passive losses that you can carry forward indefinitely until either: 1) you have passive income from other sources to offset them against, or 2) you sell the property in a fully taxable transaction.

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Ethan Clark

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Thanks for the explanation. That's disappointing but makes sense. So basically those losses just sit there until we either get other passive income or sell the property? Also, is there anything we can do now to create some passive income that would let us use some of these deductions? I've heard about investing in REITs - would that potentially help?

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StarStrider

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Yes, those losses will just sit there until you can use them. They're carried forward indefinitely, so you don't lose them - they're just on hold. Regarding creating passive income, REITs generally produce ordinary dividends, not passive income in the IRS sense. Your best options would be investing in other rental properties that generate positive income, passive investing in a business, or certain investment partnerships. Another strategy some high-income professionals consider is looking into whether they qualify as a "real estate professional" for tax purposes, which requires 750+ hours working in real estate activities. This is challenging with full-time jobs but might be worth exploring if one of you could reduce work hours and significantly increase time spent on managing rental properties.

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Carmen Ruiz

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Did they actually help with finding ways to use the passive losses sooner rather than later? I'm in a similar situation with about $12k of rental losses from last year that I can't seem to use because of the income limits.

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I'm skeptical about these online services. How is this different from just talking to a CPA? And do they give actual tax advice or just analyze documents? My rental situation is complicated with properties in multiple states.

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Yuki Sato

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They actually provided several strategies I hadn't considered. In my case, they identified that my spouse could potentially qualify as a real estate professional if we reorganized how we documented time spent on property activities, which would allow us to use the losses against ordinary income. For multi-state properties, they're actually really good because their system automatically checks against state-specific tax rules. They don't replace a CPA but complement them - in fact, my CPA now asks for their analysis reports before we meet because it organizes everything. It's more than document analysis; they provide strategic options based on your specific situation and tax history.

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Mei Wong

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Something else to consider - if you actively participated in the real estate activity, you might be able to claim the losses in the year you dispose of the property, even if you don't have passive income. When you sell the property, previously suspended passive losses become fully deductible. I had to carry forward rental losses for 6 years, but was able to claim everything when I sold the property.

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QuantumQuasar

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Do those suspended losses get adjusted for inflation over time? Seems unfair if you have to wait years to claim them and they're worth less by then.

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Mei Wong

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No, unfortunately suspended passive losses don't get adjusted for inflation. They remain at their original dollar value regardless of how many years you carry them forward. It's definitely not ideal from a time-value-of-money perspective, which is why many investors try to create strategies to use them sooner rather than later.

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Liam McGuire

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Has anyone tried qualifying as a real estate professional to bypass the passive loss limitations? My CPA suggested this route since we have multiple properties.

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StarStrider

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I've had clients qualify as real estate professionals, but it's a high bar to clear. You need to spend 750+ hours per year in real estate activities (that's about 15 hours a week minimum) AND more time on real estate than any other professional activity. With your W2 jobs, that's nearly impossible unless one of you transitions to part-time employment or leaves your job entirely to focus on real estate. The IRS scrutinizes these claims carefully, so you need meticulous documentation of time spent.

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