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Felix Grigori

Are people who claim to not have filed or paid taxes for years telling the truth?

I keep hearing about these people who claim they haven't filed or paid taxes in like 10+ years. How is that even possible? I'm genuinely confused about how someone gets away with this for so long. Wouldn't the IRS be all over them? I'd expect agents showing up at their door, property seizures, business shutdowns, frozen bank accounts - the works! Meanwhile, I get anxiety-inducing letters from the IRS over owing them $2.63 or something ridiculously small. I feel like I can't even be a day late without consequences. Are these people who brag about not paying taxes for decades just making stuff up? Or is there some loophole I don't know about? Just trying to understand how the system actually works because right now it doesn't make any sense to me.

Felicity Bud

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As someone who used to work in tax resolution, I can tell you these people aren't necessarily lying. The IRS is severely understaffed and backlogged, which means they simply can't pursue every case of non-compliance. What usually happens is people who don't file fall into a few categories: those who are self-employed with no W-2 income reporting, those who live primarily on cash-based income, or people who have complex financial situations that make it harder for automated systems to flag them. The IRS tends to prioritize cases where they can collect the most money with the least effort. That said, it's a ticking time bomb. I've seen clients who went 15+ years without filing suddenly get hit with everything at once - penalties, interest, liens, the whole nine yards. The statute of limitations for the IRS to collect is generally 10 years from assessment, but they can't assess what hasn't been filed, so non-filers can theoretically be on the hook indefinitely.

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Max Reyes

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So what happens if someone finally decides to file after years of not doing it? Is there a way to come clean without getting destroyed financially? Asking for a friend...obviously.

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Felicity Bud

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Yes, there are options for people who haven't filed in years. The IRS actually has programs specifically for non-filers to come back into compliance. You'd want to look into the Voluntary Disclosure Program or potentially an Offer in Compromise if the tax debt is overwhelming. The key is to file before they find you - voluntary compliance looks much better than being caught. The IRS generally wants to get people back into the system rather than punish them, though you'll still face penalties and interest. But these are often negotiable, especially if there are legitimate hardship circumstances.

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Lindsey Fry

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My brother-in-law is one of those "I haven't filed in 15 years" guys and I can tell you exactly how it works. He's self-employed (contractor), gets paid mostly in cash, doesn't have any significant assets in his name, and uses a checking account at a small local credit union. The IRS generally catches people through automated systems that match reported income (W-2s, 1099s) with filed returns. If you don't have much reported income, you can fly under the radar.

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Saleem Vaziri

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But isn't he terrified of getting caught? What happens when he wants to retire? Or buy a house? Or do literally anything that requires proof of income? Seems like a stressful way to live.

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Lindsey Fry

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Oh he's definitely scared, especially now that he's getting older. He can't get a mortgage, can't get most loans, can't really prove his income for anything official. He's basically locked out of a lot of normal financial life. He talks about "beating the system" but honestly, the system has him trapped in a cash-only existence. He can't even collect Social Security properly when he retires because he hasn't been paying into it. I keep telling him to get straight with the IRS before they come after him, but he's convinced they'll take everything. It's a prison of his own making at this point.

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Kayla Morgan

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Anyone else notice that the IRS seems really random about who they go after? My cousin owed like $80k and didn't hear anything for years, while my coworker got audited over a $2,000 charitable contribution. Makes no sense.

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James Maki

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The IRS has these computer systems that flag "unusual" things in returns. Large charitable deductions compared to income, home office deductions, self-employment expenses, etc. Your coworker probably hit one of those triggers while your cousin might be flying under the radar temporarily.

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Sean O'Brien

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The randomness isn't actually random - it's resource allocation. The IRS uses algorithms to determine which cases have the highest probability of successful collection relative to the cost of enforcement. They might go after someone with a small discrepancy if their system flags it as likely fraudulent or if it's part of a pattern they're investigating. Your cousin with $80k might not have gotten attention yet because they're in a category the IRS considers "uncollectible" (no assets, low income, etc.) or their case hasn't bubbled up to human review yet. But that doesn't mean it won't eventually - the IRS can pursue collection for up to 10 years after assessment, and they often batch process older cases when they have capacity. The charitable contribution audit probably triggered because the amount was disproportionate to reported income, or because your coworker claimed deductions in categories that are commonly abused. The IRS has gotten pretty sophisticated about using data analytics to spot potential issues, even small ones.

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