Am I eligible for the refundable portion of AOTC? Confused about how to calculate "support"
Hey everyone, Really hoping someone can help me figure this out! Here's my situation: - My parents are alive but didn't help with any of my living expenses in 2023 - Nobody claimed me as a dependent on their tax returns - My income for 2023 was around $27,500 I'm trying to figure out if I qualify for the refundable portion of the American Opportunity Tax Credit (AOTC). I understand I need my income to be >= (0.5 * support). With my income of $27,500, I need my "support" to be <= $55,000. I'm totally confused about calculating my "support" though. I looked at the IRS worksheet but it's making my head spin. My situation throughout 2023: - Spring semester (Jan-May): My university covered all room & board through scholarships (shows on my 2022 1098-T). All my tuition/qualified educational expenses were paid by the university. - Summer (Jun-Aug): I paid rent and food myself - Fall semester (Sep-Dec): University paid all room & board again (board shows on 2023 1098-T, but room scholarship doesn't show anywhere). My tuition was partly covered by scholarships on my 1098-T and I paid the rest. What I'm confused about - does my "support" calculation include: 1. Room & board from spring/fall even though university scholarships covered it? 2. Spring tuition expenses covered completely by scholarships? 3. Fall tuition covered partially by scholarships? Example: If fall tuition was $32,000 but $29,000 was paid by university scholarships, do I count $32,000 or just the $3,000 I paid toward my "support" calculation? The lower my "support" value, the better chance I have of qualifying for the refundable portion of AOTC. Any help would be so appreciated!
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Sophia Miller
The American Opportunity Tax Credit can be tricky when it comes to the support test for the refundable portion. Let me help clarify this for you. For the "support" calculation, you need to include the total cost of your support regardless of who paid for it. This means: 1. Yes, include the full value of room & board for spring and fall, even though they were paid by scholarships. 2. Yes, include the full amount of your spring tuition expenses, even though they were covered by scholarships. 3. Yes, include the full amount of fall tuition, not just the portion you paid out of pocket. In your example with the $32,000 fall tuition where $29,000 was covered by scholarships, you would include the full $32,000 in your support calculation. Scholarships and grants are considered support provided by a third party but still count toward your total support amount. The key is that "support" means the total cost of your living and educational expenses, not just what you paid yourself. This includes housing, food, clothing, education costs, medical expenses, transportation, and other necessities.
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Elijah Jackson
•Thanks for the explanation, but now I'm even more confused. If I include ALL of those expenses in my support calculation, my total support will be way over $55,000, which means I wouldn't qualify for the refundable portion of AOTC. But when I look at the IRS worksheet for determining support, it asks about how much the person (me) contributed to their own support. So wouldn't support only include what I actually paid, not what scholarships covered?
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Sophia Miller
•You're confusing two different concepts. The support test for dependency and the support test for the refundable portion of the AOTC work differently. For the refundable portion of the AOTC, you need to look at the total amount of your support from all sources (including scholarships), and then determine if your earned income is at least half of that total support amount. This is different from the dependency support test where you're determining who provided more than half of someone's support. So yes, for AOTC purposes, you include everything - scholarship-covered expenses and all other living expenses - in your total support figure. Then you compare your earned income to half of that total. If your income is greater than half of your total support, you can claim the refundable portion.
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Mason Davis
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Mia Rodriguez
•Did it explain how to handle scholarships that don't show up on the 1098-T? My university gave me a housing grant that doesn't appear anywhere on my tax forms, and I'm not sure if I should be counting it or how to document it if I get audited.
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Jacob Lewis
•I'm a little skeptical about using third-party tools for tax stuff. How does this actually work? Do you have to pay for it? And how does it know the rules better than the actual IRS publications?
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Mason Davis
•It handles scholarships not shown on the 1098-T by having you upload your financial aid award letters or account statements. The system recognizes these documents and extracts the relevant information. For housing grants, it specifically flags these as part of your support calculation but not as reducing qualified education expenses. The tool isn't replacing IRS publications - it's applying those exact rules but making them easier to understand. It's like having a tax professional guide you through the process. There is a fee, but it was way less than what I would have paid a tax professional, and it saved me hours of research and confusion. Plus I got back more on my refund than I expected because I properly claimed credits I didn't know I qualified for.
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Jacob Lewis
Guys, I just wanted to update after trying that taxr.ai tool mentioned earlier. I was really skeptical at first but decided to give it a shot with my complicated scholarship situation. I uploaded my 1098-Ts, financial aid award letters, and university account statements. The tool sorted through everything and showed me exactly how to calculate my support - it turns out I was doing it completely wrong! I was only counting what I paid out of pocket, but it explained that ALL costs count toward support, regardless of who pays. It also broke down which scholarships reduce qualified education expenses and which don't. For the original poster's situation, it would definitely help clarify how to handle those room and board scholarships versus the tuition ones. I ended up qualifying for $1,000 of the refundable portion of AOTC that I would have missed otherwise. Definitely worth checking out if you're confused about education credits.
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Amelia Martinez
After reading all these comments about the support test, I still had questions so I tried calling the IRS directly. Spent HOURS trying to get through with no luck. Then I found this service called Claimyr at https://claimyr.com that got me connected to an actual IRS agent in about 15 minutes. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent confirmed what others here are saying - for the refundable portion of AOTC, your "support" includes ALL expenses required for your living and education, regardless of who paid for them. This includes the full value of scholarships that covered your tuition, room, and board. They explained that my confusion was because the support test for dependency status works differently than the support test for the refundable portion of AOTC. Once I understood that, everything made sense. The agent even walked me through how to document everything properly in case of an audit.
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Ethan Clark
•Wait, so this service somehow gets you through the IRS phone queue faster? How does that even work? Seems like everyone would use it if it actually worked.
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Mila Walker
•This sounds like complete BS to me. The IRS phone system is notoriously backed up. There's no way some third-party service can magically get you through faster than everyone else waiting in the queue. Sounds like a scam to get your money.
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Amelia Martinez
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Mila Walker
I need to publicly eat my words. After calling the IRS myself for THREE DAYS with no success, I broke down and tried that Claimyr service mentioned above. I was connected to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes. The agent gave me detailed information about how to determine support for the AOTC refundable portion (which was why I was calling). She confirmed that ALL expenses count toward your total support figure - including the full value of scholarships, grants, and any other assistance you received. For the original poster: The agent said to include ALL tuition, room, and board costs in your support calculation, even if they were paid by scholarships. Then compare your earned income to half of that total support amount to determine eligibility for the refundable portion. I'm still shocked I got through so quickly after days of trying on my own. Sometimes it's worth using a service when you're dealing with something as important as tax credits that could be worth thousands of dollars.
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Logan Scott
Just to add my experience as someone who went through this last year - the way I understood the support test for AOTC refundable portion is: Total support = ALL expenses needed to support yourself (housing, food, tuition, books, etc.) regardless of who paid For AOTC refundable portion, your earned income must be greater than or equal to half of your total support. So if your total support (including all those scholarship-covered expenses) was $50,000, your earned income would need to be at least $25,000 to qualify for the refundable portion. One thing nobody mentioned - make sure you're only claiming qualified education expenses for the AOTC that weren't covered by tax-free scholarships. That's separate from the support test but equally important when claiming the credit.
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Elijah Jackson
•Thanks for breaking it down! So if I understand correctly: Step 1: Calculate TOTAL support (all expenses regardless of who paid) Step 2: Check if my income is at least half of that total Step 3: If yes, I can claim the refundable portion of AOTC But then for the actual AOTC calculation itself, I can only use qualified education expenses I paid out of pocket (not covered by tax-free scholarships), right?
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Logan Scott
•That's exactly right. You've got the steps perfect. For the AOTC calculation itself, you can claim up to $4,000 in qualified education expenses, but you must subtract any tax-free scholarship/grant money that went toward those qualified expenses. So if your tuition was $32,000 and scholarships covered $29,000, you'd have $3,000 in eligible expenses for the AOTC calculation. Remember that room and board aren't qualified education expenses for AOTC purposes (even though they do count in your support calculation). Only tuition, fees, and course materials count as qualified expenses for the credit itself.
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Chloe Green
Did anyone address whether books and supplies count in the support calculation? I spent about $1,200 on textbooks last year and another $600 on a required laptop. Do these count toward my total "support" figure?
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Lucas Adams
•Yes, books, supplies, and required equipment for education absolutely count as part of your total support! Anything that contributes to your living and educational needs is included in the support calculation. Just remember that for the AOTC itself (separate from the support test for the refundable portion), books and supplies count as qualified education expenses only if they're required for enrollment and purchased from the institution. If you buy them elsewhere, they still count in your support calculation but not necessarily as qualified expenses for the credit.
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Diego Chavez
Just wanted to chime in with some clarification since I see there's been some confusion in the thread about the support test calculation. The key thing to remember is that for the refundable portion of AOTC, "support" means the TOTAL amount it cost to support you during the tax year, regardless of who actually paid for it. This includes: - Full tuition costs (even scholarship-covered portions) - Full room and board costs (even if paid by grants) - Books, supplies, and required equipment - Personal expenses like clothing, transportation, medical costs - Any other living expenses So in your example, Elijah, if your fall tuition was $32,000 but scholarships covered $29,000, you include the full $32,000 in your support calculation, not just the $3,000 you paid. The IRS looks at it this way: What was the total dollar amount needed to support you? Then, did you provide at least half of that support through your own earned income? Given your income of $27,500, your total support would need to be $55,000 or less for you to qualify. With university costs these days, that might be challenging, but you'll need to add up all your actual expenses to see where you stand. Hope this helps clarify things!
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