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Don't forget about self-employment taxes! Even if your YouTube business has losses that offset your other 1099 income for income tax purposes, you'll still pay SE tax on the net profit from your existing 1099 work. The SE tax is calculated separately for each Schedule C business - losses from one don't offset SE tax on another. Also, have you looked into an S-Corp election for your profitable 1099 business? At your income level, you might save significantly on SE taxes by taking a reasonable salary plus distributions.
That's a really good point about the self-employment taxes that I hadn't considered. So even if the YouTube losses offset my income tax, I'd still be paying the full SE tax on my current 1099 income? Regarding the S-Corp suggestion - I've been considering that actually. What would you consider a "reasonable salary" for my current 1099 work given the income range I mentioned?
Yes, you would still pay the full SE tax on your current 1099 business. Self-employment tax is calculated on each Schedule C separately - losses from one business don't reduce SE tax liability for another profitable business. For an S-Corp reasonable salary, there's no exact formula, but it should be comparable to what you would pay someone else to do the same work. For a high-earning consultant making $135-270k, a reasonable salary might be around 50-60% of your total profits. The remaining amount could be taken as distributions not subject to SE tax, potentially saving you thousands. However, S-Corps come with additional compliance requirements and costs (payroll processing, separate tax return, etc.). At your income level though, the savings would likely outweigh these costs. I'd recommend running the numbers with a tax professional familiar with your specific situation.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of timing your equipment purchases strategically. Since you're expecting significant expenses in the early years of your YouTube business, consider using Section 179 expensing or bonus depreciation to deduct the full cost of equipment purchases in the year you buy them, rather than depreciating them over several years. This is especially valuable when you have high income from your other sources that the YouTube losses can offset. For example, if you buy $13.5k worth of camera equipment in year one when your YouTube channel has minimal income, you can potentially deduct the full amount against your W-2 and 1099 income that same year. Also, keep in mind that the IRS looks at the totality of circumstances when determining business vs. hobby status. Even if you show losses in the first few years, factors like time and effort devoted to the activity, expertise you bring, success in similar activities, and expectation of asset appreciation all work in your favor. Since you already have successful business experience with your 1099 work, that demonstrates you understand how to run a profitable business. Just make sure you're treating the YouTube venture like a real business from day one - separate accounts, business plan, marketing efforts, etc. The documentation you create now will be crucial if the IRS ever questions your deductions later.
Just to clarify something I'm seeing in some of the responses - the key date is December 31st of the tax year. If your son turned 18 in December 2023, that means he was 17 at the beginning of 2023 and turned 18 during the year. For Child Tax Credit purposes, he needed to be under 17 at the end of the year (December 31, 2023) to qualify. I had a similar situation when my daughter turned 17 in November a couple years back. I remember being disappointed to lose that credit, but was still able to claim her as a dependent for other purposes. Double-check your son's birthdate against these requirements just to be certain.
I went through this exact situation two years ago when my son turned 18 in November. The age cutoff rules can be really frustrating, especially when you're used to getting certain credits year after year. Just want to add one thing that helped me - make sure you keep detailed records of his college expenses if he's starting school. Even though you lose the Child Tax Credit, education credits like the American Opportunity Tax Credit can actually be more valuable (up to $2,500 vs the $2,000 CTC). You'll want to save all tuition statements, book receipts, and required fee documentation. Also, if your son has any part-time job income, make sure he understands whether he needs to file his own return. The IRS gets copies of his W-2s regardless, so coordination between your returns is important to avoid any complications with dependent claims. The silver lining is that this is typically a one-time adjustment year. Once you navigate it this time, you'll know exactly what to expect going forward!
turbotax has been sus lately ngl. might switch to hr block next year
same here. their fees are getting ridiculus too
Pro tip: you can call the IRS automated system at 800-829-1040 and it will tell you if you have any outstanding balances. No need to wait for a human. Just have your SSN and filing status ready. It's how I check if I owe anything before I file each year.
Just wanted to add that you should also check if you have any estimated tax payment requirements for this year to avoid being in this same situation again. Since you had to pay additional taxes on your amended return, it might mean your withholding or estimated payments weren't quite right. The IRS generally expects you to pay as you go throughout the year, either through payroll withholding or quarterly estimated payments. If you end up owing more than $1,000 when you file, you might be subject to underpayment penalties next year even if you pay on time. You can use Form 1040ES to calculate if you need to make estimated payments for the current tax year. Better to stay ahead of it than deal with another surprise balance later!
This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar boat and never thought about the estimated payments aspect. Do you know if there's a safe harbor rule or something where you won't get penalized as long as you pay a certain percentage of what you owed the previous year? I've heard conflicting information about this and want to make sure I'm not setting myself up for more surprises next tax season.
Hunter Hampton
Great advice from everyone here! As someone who just started delivery driving myself a few months ago, I want to echo what others have said about setting aside money consistently. One thing that helped me was automating it - I set up my bank account to automatically transfer 22% of every deposit to a separate "tax savings" account. That way I never even see that money as "spendable" and I don't have to remember to manually set it aside each week. Also, don't forget about potential deductions beyond just mileage! I've been able to deduct part of my car insurance, phone bill, and even the insulated delivery bags I bought. Keep receipts for everything remotely work-related. For mileage tracking, I started using a simple voice memo on my phone at the start and end of each shift to record my odometer readings. Takes 5 seconds and gives me a backup if my tracking app ever glitches. The key is finding a system you'll actually stick with consistently! Good luck with your delivery hustle - the flexibility is amazing for college students!
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AstroAce
ā¢This is super helpful! I'm also new to all this tax stuff and the automated transfer idea is genius. I was worried I'd forget to set money aside or be tempted to spend it. Quick question - do you transfer the 22% from your gross earnings or after you've deducted gas and other expenses? I'm trying to figure out the best way to calculate how much to actually set aside each week. Also, the voice memo trick for odometer readings is so smart! I've been trying to remember to open an app every time but I always forget when I'm rushing between deliveries.
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Liv Park
ā¢Great question! I transfer the 22% from my gross earnings (total amount deposited from DoorDash/UberEats) before any expense calculations. Here's my reasoning: it's easier to be consistent with a simple percentage of what actually hits my account, and I'd rather overestimate than scramble for tax money later. When tax time comes, I'll get credit for all my mileage and expense deductions, so if I've saved too much, that's a nice bonus! But if I tried to calculate net income weekly and set aside a smaller percentage, I'd probably mess up the math or forget to account for something. The voice memo thing has been a lifesaver! I just say "Starting delivery, odometer 45,231" when I leave my house and "Ending delivery, odometer 45,287" when I get back. Takes literally 3 seconds and I can review them later if my tracking app has issues. Way more reliable than trying to remember to open an app while I'm focused on driving safely.
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Jackson Carter
Hey CosmicVoyager! Welcome to the gig economy - it's great that you're thinking about taxes upfront rather than scrambling later like so many of us did! Based on your expected earnings of $200-250/week, you'll likely make around $10,000-13,000 annually. Here's my take after doing delivery work for over a year: **Quarterly Taxes:** With proper mileage tracking, you probably won't hit the $1,000 threshold that requires quarterly payments in your first year. However, I'd still recommend setting aside 20-25% of your gross earnings in a separate account - this covers both self-employment tax (15.3%) and potential income tax. **Essential tracking from day one:** - Mileage (every single mile while the app is on) - All car-related expenses during work hours - Phone bill percentage (you need it for the apps) - Any delivery supplies you purchase **Pro tip:** Download a mileage tracking app before your first delivery and never rely on just one method. I use both an app AND keep a small notebook in my car as backup. Since you mentioned your car isn't great on gas, definitely calculate both the standard mileage deduction AND actual vehicle expenses when tax time comes - you can use whichever method gives you the bigger deduction! The fact that you're asking these questions now puts you way ahead of where most of us started. You've got this!
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Lim Wong
ā¢This is such comprehensive advice, thank you Jackson! I really appreciate you breaking down the numbers based on my expected income range. The 20-25% savings rate makes sense - better to be safe than sorry with taxes. I'm definitely going to start with both a mileage app and the notebook backup system you mentioned. The idea of calculating both standard mileage vs. actual expenses is really smart, especially since my car does drink gas like crazy. One follow-up question - when you say "every single mile while the app is on," do you mean from the moment I turn on DoorDash to when I turn it off for the day? Or just the miles while I'm actually on a delivery? I want to make sure I'm tracking correctly from the start. Thanks again for all the detailed guidance - it's really reassuring to hear from someone who's been through this process successfully!
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