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I'm dealing with this exact same situation right now! My elderly father has been trying to file his 2023 return for weeks and keeps getting rejected for the IP PIN despite using the correct one from the portal. What's really frustrating is that he's been assigned an IP PIN for the past 3 years due to a previous identity theft incident, and this is the first time we've encountered this problem. From reading through all these responses, it sounds like there's definitely a systematic issue with the IRS database synchronization. @Daniel Rogers - did the Identity Theft hotline agent give you any timeline for when this might be resolved system-wide? And @Anna Stewart - that Form 14039 approach sounds promising but 3 weeks seems like a long time when we're already getting close to the filing deadline. Has anyone tried the "regenerate PIN" option that @Eleanor Foster mentioned? I'm wondering if that might be a quicker fix than waiting on hold for hours or mailing forms.
@William Rivera I tried the regenerate PIN option that @Eleanor Foster mentioned and it worked for me! I was skeptical at first but after dealing with this issue for my aunt s return,'I decided to give it a shot. Here s what'I did: logged into her IRS account, went to the IP PIN section, clicked Get New "IP PIN there s" (a'small link at the bottom , waited)exactly 24 hours like Eleanor suggested, then used the new PIN. The return went through immediately on the first try! Much faster than waiting weeks for Form 14039 processing or sitting on hold forever. Worth trying before going the paper route, especially with the filing deadline approaching.
This IP PIN synchronization issue is unfortunately becoming more widespread this tax season. I've been helping several community members navigate this exact problem, and what's concerning is that it seems to disproportionately affect taxpayers who were assigned IP PINs due to previous identity theft incidents rather than voluntary enrollees. Based on the experiences shared here, I'd recommend trying solutions in this order of efficiency: 1. **Regenerate PIN method** (as @NebulaNinja and @Eleanor Foster confirmed works) - quickest solution at 24-48 hours 2. **Identity Theft hotline** at 800-908-4490 for immediate system override - expect long hold times but faster than paper processing 3. **Form 14039 with cover letter** explaining the PIN rejection issue - most thorough but takes 2-3 weeks For your sister and cousin, I'd definitely start with regenerating their PINs through the portal. The fact that this is affecting multiple family members suggests it might be related to how their accounts were initially flagged in the system. One additional tip: if they regenerate PINs, make sure they clear their browser cache and log out completely before logging back in to retrieve the new PIN. Sometimes the portal shows cached information rather than the updated PIN. Keep us posted on what works - this information helps the entire community!
@Astrid Bergström This is incredibly helpful! As someone new to dealing with IP PIN issues, I really appreciate the step-by-step approach you ve'outlined. I ve'been lurking in this community for a while but finally decided to jump in because my own mother is facing this exact problem right now. She s'been assigned an IP PIN for the past two years after someone filed a fraudulent return using her SSN, and this is the first time we ve'encountered the rejection issue. Reading through everyone s'experiences here has been both reassuring knowing (it s'not just us and) frustrating realizing (how widespread this problem is .)I m'definitely going to try the regenerate PIN method first since it seems to have the highest success rate and fastest turnaround. Quick question though - when you mention clearing browser cache, should we also try using a different browser entirely just to be safe? My mom typically uses Safari on her iPad, but I could help her access the portal through Chrome on my laptop if that might make a difference. Thanks to everyone who s'shared their experiences - this community is a lifesaver during tax season!
This is exactly the situation I was in a few years ago! One thing that really helped me was understanding the "safe harbor" rule - if you pay at least 100% of last year's tax liability (or 110% if your prior year AGI was over $150,000) through withholding and estimated payments, you won't face underpayment penalties even if you end up owing more when you file. So if your total tax last year was $8,000, as long as you pay at least $8,000 this year through your regular W2 withholding plus estimated payments for the property sale, you're protected from penalties. This takes a lot of the guesswork and stress out of estimating the exact amount. I'd also recommend keeping detailed records of your property's basis (what your grandparents paid plus any improvements) since you'll need that to calculate your actual gain. Don't forget about selling expenses like realtor commissions, legal fees, and closing costs - these can be deducted from your gain and reduce your tax bill.
This is really helpful information about the safe harbor rule! I had no idea that paying 100% of last year's tax could protect me from penalties. Quick question though - when you mention keeping records of what my grandparents paid plus improvements, how do I figure out the original purchase price if I don't have those records? The property has been in the family for decades and I'm not sure where to find that information. Also, does the stepped-up basis rule that @Paolo Esposito mentioned earlier override the need to know the original purchase price since my basis would be the value when I inherited it?
@Ava Harris Great question! You re'absolutely right - the stepped-up basis rule does override the need to know the original purchase price when you inherit property. Since you inherited the cabin, your basis is the fair market value at the time of your grandparents death,' not what they originally paid for it. So you don t'need to track down decades-old purchase records. What you DO need is documentation of the property s'value when you inherited it - this could be from the estate appraisal, probate court documents, or a professional appraisal done around the time of inheritance. This stepped-up basis can make a huge difference in your tax liability! The safe harbor rule @Keisha Thompson mentioned is also spot-on. If you re worried'about calculating the exact amount, just make sure your total payments W2 withholding (plus estimated payments equal at) least 100% of last year s total'tax, and you ll avoid'penalties even if you underpay slightly.
Don't forget to check if you're eligible for any installment payment plans if the tax bill ends up being larger than expected! Even if you make estimated payments, you might find yourself with a balance due when you file. The IRS offers several payment plan options that can help you avoid collection actions while you pay off the remaining balance. You can apply for an installment agreement online through the IRS website if you owe less than $50,000 in combined tax, penalties, and interest. For larger amounts, you'll need to submit Form 9465. There are fees associated with these plans, but they're usually much less costly than the penalties and interest you'd face for not paying at all. Also, consider setting aside a bit extra beyond your estimated tax calculation - maybe 5-10% more than what you think you'll owe. This gives you a buffer in case your calculations are slightly off or there are unexpected complications with the sale. It's always better to get a small refund than to owe additional money plus penalties!
This is really solid advice about having a buffer! I learned this the hard way when I sold some stock a few years back. I calculated everything perfectly but forgot about the Net Investment Income Tax (NIIT) that kicks in for higher-income taxpayers. Ended up owing an extra $1,200 that I wasn't expecting. The installment plan option is great to know about too. Even though the goal is to pay everything upfront with estimated payments, life happens and sometimes your calculations can be off. It's reassuring to know the IRS has reasonable payment options if you need them. One thing I'd add is to make sure you keep copies of all your estimated payment confirmations and any documentation about the property sale. If there are any questions later, you'll want to be able to prove when and how much you paid throughout the year.
I'm confused about how to determine "providing more than half of support" for my college kid. She has a scholarship covering tuition, works part time for spending money (made about $8200 last year), but I pay for her apartment, car insurance, health insurance, and send money for groceries. How do I figure out if I hit the "more than half" threshold to claim the Credit for Other Dependents?
To figure out the support test, make a list of ALL expenses for the year - tuition, room, board, clothing, medical, transportation, personal items, etc. Then determine who paid each expense. The scholarship counts toward your daughter's contribution, along with her earnings. Your payments count toward your support. If your total exceeds hers, you've provided more than half her support. Don't forget to include the fair rental value of housing if she lived with you during breaks, and the value of health insurance, cell phone plans, etc. Even if tuition is covered by scholarship, all those other expenses usually add up to parents providing the majority of support for college students.
Just wanted to share my experience as someone who went through this exact situation last year! My daughter turned 18 in October and was a college freshman. Like you, we paid for everything - tuition, dorm, meal plan, books, etc. She made about $4,200 from a summer job. Here's what I learned: Yes, you can absolutely still claim her as a dependent! Since she's a full-time student under 24 and you provide more than half her support, she qualifies under the "qualifying child" rules. The key thing is that dorm time counts as living with you for the residency test. You're right about the Credit for Other Dependents - that's exactly what replaces the Child Tax Credit once they turn 18. It's worth $500 instead of the $2,000 you used to get, but don't stop there! Since you paid her college expenses, you should also look into the American Opportunity Tax Credit, which can be worth up to $2,500 per student for the first four years of college. That's actually MORE valuable than what you were getting with the Child Tax Credit. Make sure you get her 1098-T form from the college and keep receipts for books and required supplies. You can claim both credits for the same child - they serve different purposes and don't conflict with each other.
This is super helpful! I'm new to all this tax stuff and have been stressing about my 18-year-old starting college next fall. Just to clarify - when you say the American Opportunity Tax Credit can be worth "up to $2,500 per student," does that mean I could potentially get more back in credits than I actually paid in tuition? My daughter got a partial scholarship so our out-of-pocket will probably be around $8,000 for the year. Also, do things like her laptop and dorm supplies count as qualifying education expenses?
9 Has anyone used the 1099 correction feature in QuickBooks? I made the same mistake but I'm not sure if I should use their automated correction process or do it manually through the IRS website.
18 I used QuickBooks for 1099 corrections last year. The process was pretty straightforward - you just void the incorrect form in the system and create the new one. It handles formatting everything correctly with the right boxes checked. One weird thing though - after I submitted through QB, it still showed both forms in the system which freaked me out. But when I called to confirm, they explained that's normal and they keep records of both the voided and corrected forms. The IRS only received the proper corrected version.
Just went through this exact scenario last month with my consulting business. Here's what worked for me: 1. File a corrected 1099-NEC with "CORRECTED" box checked and $0 in Box 1 2. Submit your 1099-MISC with the full $4,300 (don't check "CORRECTED" unless you previously filed an incorrect MISC) 3. Send both corrected forms to your vendor with a clear explanation The key is making sure the corrected 1099-NEC has the exact same vendor info as the original so the IRS can properly match and void it. I also recommend keeping detailed records of what you submitted and when, just in case there are questions later. One tip that saved me stress: I submitted everything a few days before the deadline, then used one of those callback services to confirm with the IRS that both forms were properly processed. Much better than discovering issues after tax season ends!
This is really helpful, thanks for laying out the step-by-step process! I'm curious about the callback service you mentioned - was that something like Claimyr that was discussed earlier in the thread? I'm dealing with a similar situation and want to make sure I can confirm everything was processed correctly without spending hours on hold with the IRS.
Felicity Bud
Hey Isabella! Congratulations on your upcoming wedding! I went through this exact same situation two years ago and completely understand the anxiety around getting the tax stuff right. One thing that really helped me was using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator (it's free on IRS.gov) about a month after we got married. You input both of your incomes, current withholdings, and marital status, and it calculates exactly how much you should be withholding for the rest of the year. It even generates the specific numbers to put on your W-4 forms. At your combined income level, you're definitely in marriage bonus territory rather than penalty territory. My husband and I had very similar incomes to you and your fiancée, and we ended up saving about $2,200 compared to filing single the year before. One practical tip: when you update your W-4s after the wedding, consider having the higher earner (your fiancée at $83k) claim "Married filing jointly" and you claim "Married but withhold at higher single rate" - this often provides better withholding accuracy for dual-income couples and helps avoid any surprises at tax time. The most important thing is not to stress too much about getting it perfect immediately. Even if your withholding is slightly off, you can always make a small estimated payment in January if needed. You've got plenty of time to adjust once you see how everything plays out in your paychecks after the wedding!
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Rami Samuels
•This is such practical advice, Felicity! I hadn't heard about the strategy of having one spouse claim "Married filing jointly" and the other claim "Married but withhold at higher single rate" - that sounds like it could really help with accuracy. Since my fiancée makes a bit more than me, that approach makes total sense. The IRS Tax Withholding Estimator sounds like exactly what I need too. I've been trying to figure out the math myself, but having an official tool that does the calculations and tells me exactly what to put on the W-4 forms would take so much guesswork out of it. It's really encouraging to hear that you and your husband saved over $2,000 with similar incomes! That marriage bonus is starting to sound like a really nice wedding gift from the IRS. 😊 Thanks for the reminder not to stress about perfection right away. I think I've been overthinking this because I want to get it right, but you're absolutely right that I can always make adjustments as we learn how everything works out in practice.
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Savannah Glover
Hey Isabella! Congratulations on your upcoming August wedding! 🎉 As a tax professional, I can confirm that everyone here has given you solid advice. You're absolutely right that being married on December 31st means you're considered married for the entire tax year - so your August 15th wedding date means you'll file as married for all of 2025. The great news is that with your combined income of $161k, you're nowhere near the marriage penalty threshold (which typically kicks in around $600k+). You'll almost certainly see a marriage bonus by filing jointly! Here's my step-by-step recommendation: 1. Enjoy your wedding first - don't stress about this beforehand! 2. Within 30 days after the wedding, both update your W-4s with HR 3. Use the IRS Withholding Calculator online to get exact numbers 4. Consider having the higher earner (your fiancée) file as "Married filing jointly" and you file as "Married but withhold at higher single rate" for more accurate withholding One often-overlooked tip: if either of you gets a bonus or commission later in the year, make sure your payroll department withholds at the married rate for those payments too, not the single rate. You're being very smart to plan ahead, but remember - even if your withholding isn't perfect, you can always make a small estimated payment in January. The IRS safe harbor rules protect you from penalties as long as you pay at least 100% of last year's total tax liability. Don't let tax anxiety overshadow your wedding joy - you've got this! 💕
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Kylo Ren
•This is such a comprehensive and reassuring response, Savannah! Thank you for laying out those step-by-step recommendations - having a clear timeline really helps me feel more organized about this whole process. I love that you emphasized enjoying the wedding first. I think I've been so caught up in trying to get all the tax details perfect that I was starting to stress about it overshadowing what should be such a happy time. Your reminder to focus on the joy of getting married first is exactly what I needed to hear. The tip about bonuses and commissions is really smart too - I actually do get a year-end bonus, so I'll make sure to coordinate with HR about the withholding rate for that. It's these kinds of details that I never would have thought about on my own! The safe harbor rule explanation gives me so much peace of mind. Knowing that we're protected from penalties as long as we pay at least what we paid last year individually really takes the pressure off trying to get everything perfectly calculated right away. Thank you for the professional guidance and the encouragement! This whole thread has been incredibly helpful, and I'm feeling so much more confident about navigating our first year of married taxes. 💕
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