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Zainab Ahmed

If you get fired do you get unemployment in California EDD?

So I got let go from my warehouse job last Friday and I'm trying to figure out what happens next. My supervisor said I was being terminated for "performance issues" but honestly I never got a written warning, never had a formal review, nothing documented. I showed up every day, did my job, and one day HR just called me in and that was it. I keep seeing conflicting stuff online. Some people say getting fired automatically disqualifies you, some say it depends. I have no idea what California EDD actually looks at when you get fired versus laid off. Do I even bother applying? I'm worried I'll get denied and it'll somehow make things worse. Been paying into this system for six years and never needed it before so I genuinely don't know how any of this works.

Firing from my distribution job last spring put me in the same boat, and I had the same question about whether being fired automatically kills your chances. After a few days of getting nowhere with the EDD phone line, I tried Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an actual live agent. They've got a video showing how reaching a live person at EDD actually goes: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. The agent I spoke with pulled up my case and explained that my specific weeks were still pending because EDD was waiting on my former employer to respond to the claim notice. She told me EDD would send a DE 4800 scheduling my phone interview and that I needed to keep my phone free at the time listed on it, because that's when the interviewer would call. She also said to keep certifying every two weeks no matter what while the interview was pending.

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The pending weeks part is what I'm dreading. Did you end up getting paid for those weeks after the interview was done?

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Got a Notice of Determination in the mail about two weeks after the interview, and yes the pending weeks were paid out after that. Keep certifying through the whole wait, that part matters.

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DE 4800 is the form to watch for in your mailbox, also shows up on the UI Online homepage. Don't miss that time window.

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Firing does NOT automatically disqualify you, that's a myth worth squashing right now. The way EDD looks at it: they have to decide whether the firing was actually for misconduct. If you just weren't meeting a performance bar, that's very different from someone who stole from the company or violated a clear policy on purpose. EDD basically asks the employer to prove misconduct happened, and if they can't, you can still collect. The lack of any written warnings you mentioned could actually work in your favor during the interview because it goes to whether this was really documented misconduct or just someone deciding they didn't want you around.

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That's genuinely reassuring. I was afraid "fired" was just an automatic no. So the interview is where I make my case?

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Exactly. Both you and your former employer get to give EDD your versions of events. You say what happened, they say what happened, and EDD decides from there. Just be specific and factual about what you actually did or didn't do.

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This is right. I'd also add: apply NOW. Don't wait until after the interview is scheduled. The claim starts from the Sunday of the week you apply, so every day you delay is a day that could be a pending week without pay.

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wait does the employer actually have to prove misconduct or is that only sometimes?? i thought if you got fired thats just it

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Replying to the person asking about whether employers have to prove misconduct: yes, that's how EDD handles firings specifically. For a firing, EDD's position is that your employer needs to show there was misconduct. It's not just automatic denial because you were fired. Performance issues that weren't documented or communicated clearly tend not to meet that bar.

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ok so I've been telling people wrong this whole time lol. good to know

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I told my brother the same wrong thing last year when he got fired, he almost didn't apply. He ended up qualifying. Definitely apply first and let EDD sort it out.

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Applied about a week after my own termination and the CalJOBS part caught me off guard. EDD sent a Notice of Requirement to Register for Work (DE 8405) and you've got 21 days from that date to register on caljobs.ca.gov and post a resume. If you miss that window, payments can get paused. Worth getting your CalJOBS profile set up early so it's not a scramble.

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I had no idea CalJOBS was part of this. Is that a separate login from myEDD?

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Yes, separate site entirely. CalJOBS is caljobs.ca.gov and myEDD where UI Online lives is https://myedd.edd.ca.gov/ - different accounts, different logins. Both are worth setting up quickly.

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The 21-day deadline on the DE 8405 is real. I almost let it slip because I assumed it was just informational. It is not informational.

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i did mine like day 2 because i was paranoid, definitely dont wait on it

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The certification timeline tripped me up when I first filed. After EDD processes your application, usually about three weeks in, you'll start certifying every two weeks through UI Online or by calling Tele-Cert. First certification generally covers your waiting week plus one paid week. The waiting week is just one unpaid week every claim has, it doesn't come out of your total, it's just how claims work. After that every two-week certification should produce a payment for eligible weeks.

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So the very first certification usually only pays for one week? Not two?

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Right, the first one covers two weeks but one of them is the waiting week which doesn't pay. So first payment is usually for one week. After that you're on the normal two-week cycle and both weeks pay if you're eligible.

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The waiting week thing confused me for so long. I thought EDD had just forgotten to pay me for a week.

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Went back and forth on whether to even apply after I got fired from my restaurant management job last year. Decided to file anyway and I'm glad I did. Here's the thing nobody tells you: apply first, figure out eligibility second. The worst that happens if you don't qualify is you get a denial notice, and even then you have 30 days to appeal. But if you wait to apply and then qualify, you've lost money you can't get back. The claim only starts from when you file, never retroactively.

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Yeah the "apply first" message is sinking in. I was so worried about doing something wrong that I froze.

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Completely understandable. The system is intimidating when you've never used it. But the application itself doesn't hurt you, and you can't get paid for weeks before you filed.

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This. I delayed two weeks out of pride and those two weeks cost me money. File the same week you lose the job.

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the performance issues thing is tricky bc i got fired for "attendance" but it was because i had a medical thing going on and they still called it misconduct. EDD still approved me after the interview. the interview is not as scary as it sounds, they just ask you to explain your side

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That's helpful to hear it's not an interrogation. Did they ask a lot of detailed questions about specific dates and incidents?

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yeah they asked about specific dates and what documentation existed. i just told the truth and said what i had and didnt have. took maybe 20 minutes

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Keeping any texts, emails, or anything from your employer about the termination is a good idea before the interview. Not required but helps you remember specifics.

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Something worth knowing about payment options: EDD sends a Money Network prepaid debit card automatically unless you go into myEDD and switch it to direct deposit. If you want payments going directly into your bank account, change that setting early. No judgment either way, just a step people miss and then wonder why they haven't gotten their money.

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I definitely would have missed that. Good catch. Where in myEDD do you change it?

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It's in your payment preferences inside your myEDD account. I'd change it before your first certification posts if you want direct deposit from day one.

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Payment info updates daily in UI Online under Payments, and you can also check by calling 1-866-333-4606 anytime, that line runs 24 hours.

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Nobody mentioned the base period piece and I think it matters here. Your weekly benefit amount comes from your wages in what EDD calls the base period, which is basically the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you filed. EDD uses the highest-paid quarter of that period to figure out your weekly amount, which falls somewhere between $40 and $450. If you've been at this warehouse job for six years you probably have solid wages in the base period so your benefit amount should be decent. You can estimate it with the calculator on edd.ca.gov before you even apply.

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Six years at the same place, decent wages. So that should work in my favor for the benefit amount calculation?

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Generally yes. The more you earned in that highest quarter, the closer to $450 your weekly amount tends to be. The calculator will give you a real estimate.

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Just to add: EDD also automatically checks an alternate base period if the standard one doesn't give you enough wages for a valid claim. You don't need to request that, it happens automatically.

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ok i have a question thats kind of related - my cousin got fired last month and filed but hasnt certified yet, is that a problem? she thought certifying was something you do when you first apply

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Certifying and applying are totally different steps. Applying starts the claim. Certifying is what you do every two weeks AFTER the claim is open to actually get paid. If she hasn't certified yet she should check UI Online to see if she has weeks available to certify, and do it right away if so. EDD can only pay weeks that have been certified.

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oh no. telling her right now. thanks

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This is a super common mix-up. The application is a one-time thing. Certifying is ongoing every two weeks for as long as you're claiming benefits.

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DE 1101I is the application form if you want to file by fax or mail, but honestly UI Online through myEDD is the fastest way and you can track everything there once it's going. Phone line is 1-800-300-5616, weekdays 8 to 5, if you have questions after you file. Have your Social Security number, driver's license, every employer from the last 18 months, the last day you worked, and why you were terminated ready when you apply.

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Should I explain the "performance issues" framing in the application itself or save that for the interview?

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In the application there's a section asking why you stopped working. Answer honestly and briefly there. The interview is where you give the full story. EDD will schedule the interview because there's a question about the reason for separation.

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Accurate. The application question is just to flag that there's a situation for EDD to look at. The interview is where the detail matters.

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Adjudication is the word you'll probably see a lot on UI Online while this is being sorted out. Pending weeks in Claim History just mean EDD is still deciding something, usually about eligibility. It doesn't mean denied. While anything is pending, you keep certifying every two weeks, every week. Missing certifications during adjudication is how people lose payments they would have gotten.

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I keep seeing adjudication mentioned and I wasn't sure if that was the same as an appeal. So adjudication just means they're still deciding?

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Right, totally different things. Adjudication is EDD's internal process of deciding eligibility, happens before any determination is issued. An appeal is what you do AFTER you get a Notice of Determination if you disagree with EDD's decision. You can't appeal something that hasn't been decided yet.

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This is an important distinction. I confused them too early on and thought I had to file an appeal before getting a denial. You wait for the Notice of Determination first.

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Two weeks out from filing my own claim after a firing, and what I wish someone had told me: screenshot everything in UI Online regularly. The claim balance, pending weeks, any notices. Sometimes things change and it's helpful to have a record of what it said before. Also check the UI Online homepage after every certification, that's where the interview time shows up when EDD schedules it.

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The interview showing up on the homepage is new info. I'll be checking that constantly.

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The DE 4800 comes in the mail too, but the homepage showing it means you're not waiting on mail to find out when it is.

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i missed my first interview date because i thought the mail would come faster than it did. had to call EDD the same day i missed it. do not miss it

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For anyone wondering what to actually say during the phone interview: tell the truth, give specific examples if you can, and don't speculate about what your employer might say. The interviewer asks about the events leading up to the termination, any warnings you received, whether the expectations were clearly communicated. For a firing based on vague performance claims with no documentation, just describe what actually happened. EDD makes the call from there.

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No documentation, no written warnings, nothing in writing at all. Is that enough to make my case or do I need something more?

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The lack of documentation speaks for itself in the interview. You say there was no documentation, they ask the employer, the employer either provides something or doesn't. If there's genuinely nothing in writing, that shapes what EDD finds.

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Don't overcomplicate it. Answer the questions they ask. The interviewer isn't trying to trip you up, they're trying to get the information they need to make a decision.

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The Notice of Determination is what you watch for in the mail after the interview. That's the official decision letter. If EDD decides you're eligible, your pending weeks get processed. If they deny you, the notice includes an Appeal Form (DE 1000M) and you have 30 days from the mailing date on the notice to file that appeal in writing. Missing the 30-day window means you'd need to explain why you were late, so don't sit on it.

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30 days from the mailing date specifically, not from when I receive it?

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Yes, the date printed on the notice itself, not the date it shows up in your mailbox. Open any EDD mail the day it arrives and check the mailing date immediately.

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This is an easy mistake that costs people their appeal rights. Mailing date on the notice, start counting from that date.

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Taxes on unemployment benefits are something people get surprised by. Federal government treats unemployment as taxable income. California does not. So you won't owe California state income tax on whatever you collect, but you might owe federal. At each certification EDD asks if you want 10 percent withheld for federal taxes. Worth saying yes unless you're sure you won't owe, because a tax bill in April is worse than getting slightly smaller payments during the year.

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I had no idea California didn't tax it. That's actually a decent silver lining. I'll set the federal withholding.

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EDD also sends a 1099G in January for whatever you collected the prior year, which you use when you file your federal return. It shows up in UI Online under Payments, Form 1099G, by January 31st.

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The 10 percent federal withholding option showed up during my very first certification and I almost skipped past it. Easy to miss.

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Last year my termination had a weird wrinkle where my employer claimed it was misconduct but their own HR couldn't produce a single piece of documentation when EDD asked. Went into the interview nervous. The agent on my case ended up explaining during a follow-up call I made through Claimyr that the weeks showing as pending in Claim History were specifically waiting on the employer's response to EDD's information request, and that my file itself didn't have any flags. That was actually useful to know while I was waiting.

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How long did the whole process take from application to actually getting paid?

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About five weeks total from filing to first payment hitting the card, including the two-week processing period and the interview wait. Felt longer in the moment.

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Five weeks is pretty typical in my experience when there's an interview involved. The pending weeks get paid all at once after EDD decides, which is at least something.

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EDD's Unemployment Benefit Calculator on edd.ca.gov is actually pretty accurate. Plugged in my wages before I filed just to have a ballpark and it was within about $20 of my actual weekly benefit amount on the DE 429Z when it arrived. Worth running before you apply just to know what you're working with financially.

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Good idea. I should figure out my actual quarterly wages first. Is it calendar quarters or fiscal quarters?

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Calendar quarters. January through March, April through June, etc. Your pay stubs or W-2 can help you figure out what you earned in each of those periods.

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The highest-paid quarter is what determines the weekly amount. So if you had one really good quarter and a few slower ones, the calculator uses the highest one.

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Applied after my firing and the whole thing went smoother than I expected once I understood what each step was. The UI Online dashboard in myEDD shows you where things stand. Claim History shows each week and its status. The Payments section shows what's been issued. When something is Pending you're still in the queue, not denied. The system feels more transparent once you know where to look.

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I'm going to file today. The "apply now, sort it out later" message from this thread finally got through to me.

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Apply this week before the week closes on Saturday. Claims start from the Sunday of the week you file so every day counts.

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Good call. File online through myEDD, it's the fastest. If you run into identity verification issues, check for a DE 1326C in the mail and follow those instructions.

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My firing was framed as misconduct by my employer and I still qualified after the interview. Used Claimyr to reach EDD when my DE 429Z showed a weekly benefit amount that looked wrong to me, and the agent confirmed the base period wages they had on file, which turned out to be correct once I checked my own records. Filed the claim back in January and the weekly amount on the award letter matched the calculator estimate.

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So even with misconduct listed as the reason by the employer, it's not over until EDD actually decides?

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Exactly. The employer states their reason, EDD investigates it, and they make the determination based on what both sides provide. An employer calling something misconduct doesn't make it so.

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This is the key point. EDD is not bound by whatever label an employer puts on a termination. They look at what actually happened.

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Filed about three and a half weeks ago for my own firing situation and I had a question about work search requirements. EDD requires you to be able to work, available for work, and actively looking while you're collecting. How many contacts you need per week isn't something EDD publishes a specific number for as far as I can tell, but keeping track of where you apply is a habit worth having just for your own records during the claim.

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EDD does require work search activity but you're right that the pages don't specify a number of contacts. Keep a personal log anyway so if EDD ever asks you have something to point to.

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Makes sense. I've been applying to things and saving the confirmation emails just to have a paper trail.

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CalJOBS also has job listings and tools through caljobs.ca.gov since you're already registering there for the DE 8405 requirement. Using it for actual job applications while you're on claim makes sense.

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Benefits themselves max out at 26 weeks on a standard California claim. After that there's no general extension, Extended Benefits only kick in under specific unemployment rate conditions set by law, and those aren't active right now. So the 26 weeks is what you're working with. If you get back to work before then, great. If you end up in an EDD-approved training program there's a California Training Benefits option that may extend it, but that's something to look into closer to week 16 if it becomes relevant.

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26 weeks is still a decent runway. I'm already putting in applications so hopefully I won't need all of it.

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That's the right mindset. The benefits are there as a bridge. Keep the work search going and the certifications current and you'll navigate this fine.

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Also worth noting: if you get a part-time job while collecting, you don't automatically lose benefits. EDD has an earnings formula where the first $25 or 25 percent of your gross weekly wages, whichever is more, isn't counted against you. Report everything accurately when you certify and EDD does the math.

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Partial benefits question from someone in a vaguely similar spot: I picked up two shifts a week at a friend's restaurant while my claim is active. I'm reporting every dollar I earn when I certify, which I know is required. The concern I had was whether that would just wipe out my payment entirely. Used Claimyr to get a question in to an actual EDD agent about my specific weekly wages and my weekly benefit amount, and she confirmed the formula applies - my earnings for the week that come out above 25 percent get subtracted from the benefit amount but I still got a partial payment for that week. It was less than a full week's benefit but not zero.

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Good to know the formula actually works like that in practice and not just on paper.

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Report everything accurately and EDD does the calculation. The important thing is not to underreport, that's where people get into overpayment trouble.

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Overpayments are a real headache. Report all wages for the week they were earned, not when the paycheck arrives. Even if you haven't been paid yet, it goes in the week it was earned.

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