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Zainab Abdulrahman

Does unemployment come from social security? Confused about California EDD

Okay so I've been trying to figure out where exactly unemployment benefits come from because my coworker told me it gets deducted from your social security when you retire if you collect unemployment now. We both got laid off from a warehouse distribution job last month and I filed with California EDD but he refused to file because he said it would mess up his social security down the road. I'm in my late 40s so retirement is a ways off but it got me worried enough that I've been second-guessing my claim. I looked at my paystubs and I see CASDI taken out but nothing labeled unemployment, so now I'm really confused about who actually funds this whole thing. Does unemployment come from social security or are they completely separate? I don't want to hurt myself later just to get a few hundred dollars now.

Layoffs from warehouse work and your coworker refusing to file over a social security rumor — that one is worth clearing up fast. UI benefits and social security are completely separate programs funded completely differently. Your employer pays a tax specifically to fund unemployment insurance, nothing ever comes out of your paycheck for it. Social Security is funded by the FICA deduction you do see on your stub. Collecting unemployment has zero effect on your future social security benefit, none whatsoever. Your coworker is leaving money on the table based on a myth. My own situation was different — after my retail job ended I had a question about whether my severance pay would delay my first payment. Claimyr (claimyr.com) got me on the phone with a live EDD agent after I'd been trying the 1-800-300-5616 line for two days straight. The agent looked at my claim and told me my severance was already in the system as reported and my pending weeks were just waiting on my first certification. Here's Claimyr's video on reaching a live person at EDD by phone: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 — I found it useful before I tried.

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Wait so my employer is the one paying for unemployment this whole time? I had no idea. So there's literally nothing on my end that gets affected by collecting it?

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Exactly — your employer funds it through a payroll tax. You never paid into it directly, so there's nothing on your side to reduce or take away. File, certify, and don't worry about retirement.

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The CASDI line on your stub that you mentioned is for State Disability Insurance and Paid Family Leave, totally separate from unemployment. Good that you asked because a lot of people mix those up.

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Your coworker's concern about social security getting reduced is something I heard too when I first filed. It's completely wrong though. EDD unemployment benefits are taxable as federal income, so they show up on a 1099G at the end of the year, but that has nothing to do with your Social Security record. The SSA calculates your benefit from your actual wages earned over your working life, not from whether you ever collected unemployment. The two systems don't talk to each other in that way.

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So unemployment is taxable federally but not by California? I didn't know that part either.

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Right, California exempts unemployment from state income tax. At every certification EDD asks if you want 10% withheld for federal taxes. A lot of people skip it and then owe in April, so worth thinking about.

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Came here to say the same thing. Federal yes, California no. I opted into the withholding and it made tax season way less stressful.

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The paystub confusion makes total sense because you're looking for a line labeled unemployment and there isn't one on your stub — your employer pays that separately on their end, not through your check. What you do see is CASDI which like others said covers disability and paid family leave. So you've never been directly funding unemployment yourself, your employer has been doing it the whole time you worked there.

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That's actually kind of wild. I've been working for 20 years and never knew that. So when I file a claim I'm not like cashing out something I personally saved up?

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Nope, it's insurance your employer carried on your behalf. Think of it like health insurance through work — you benefit from it without necessarily seeing the premium come out of your check.

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Just want to add that this also means your employer can't really "deny" your claim either. EDD makes the decision, not whoever you worked for. Your employer just responds to EDD's notice.

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WAIT this is blowing my mind because I literally almost didn't file for the same reason. Someone at my old job swore up and down that collecting unemployment counts against you with social security later. I filed anyway because I needed the money but I've been low-key stressed about it for weeks. Really glad this came up here.

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That rumor is everywhere and it's been going around for decades. No connection between the two programs at all.

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okay good because i really needed to hear that lol. already certified twice so at least i didn't hold off for nothing

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Unemployment insurance and Social Security are run by entirely different agencies with entirely different funding streams. Social Security is federal, run by the SSA, funded through FICA taxes split between you and your employer. California unemployment is run by EDD, funded through the employer-side UI tax. Neither program reduces the other. When you retire, SSA looks at your 35 highest-earning years of wages. A few months or even a year of unemployment doesn't erase any of those wage years — it just means you earned less during that stretch, which only matters if it displaces a higher-earning year in your top 35, and even then the effect is tiny compared to not filing and losing your benefit now.

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Okay the 35 highest years thing actually helps me understand it better. So theoretically if I had a low-income year of unemployment between high-earning years it's basically a wash for social security purposes?

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For most people yes, essentially. And even in the worst case where it does nudge one of your top 35 years slightly, the reduction to social security would be trivial compared to what you'd collect from EDD now. Your coworker is making a very costly mistake.

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This is the clearest explanation I've seen on this. The 35-year averaging thing is what makes the whole argument fall apart.

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My aunt told my cousin the same thing last year and he didn't file for like a month because of it. Eventually someone set him straight and he filed but he lost that first month of potential benefits because the claim starts from when you file, not when you got laid off. So beyond the social security myth being wrong, waiting to file costs you real money even if you eventually figure it out.

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Oh that's a good point I hadn't thought about — if my coworker eventually decides to file later he won't be able to go back and claim the weeks he already missed?

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Exactly. The claim starts the Sunday of the week you apply. EDD doesn't backdate it because you were waiting out of fear of a rumor. File as soon as you're out of work is always the right move.

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Learned this one the hard way myself. Applied three weeks after my layoff thinking I could backfill those weeks and found out the hard way you can't. File immediately.

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Another piece of this worth knowing — the CASDI deduction you do see on your stub covers State Disability Insurance and Paid Family Leave. So if you ever get injured outside work or need to bond with a new baby, that's the deduction that funds those benefits. Unemployment is the one program where the worker contributes nothing directly. All employer-side.

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Good breakdown. A lot of people assume the CASDI line is somehow connected to unemployment and it's really not.

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So I'm contributing to disability and family leave through CASDI but unemployment is entirely on my employer? Got it. That clears up a lot.

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Honestly EDD's own site explains this but their pages can be hard to navigate when you're just trying to get a quick answer. edd.ca.gov has a section that covers what unemployment is and how it's funded if you want to read it straight from the source rather than relying on coworker advice.

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i feel like nobody reads those pages until they absolutely need to and then it's hard to find what you're looking for lol

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Ha true. The search on that site is not great. But once you find the right page the information is solid.

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The social security myth is so persistent and I genuinely don't know where it started. Had the same conversation with three different people when I got laid off from a tech contractor job two years ago. Every one of them had heard some version of it. The actual rule is that you just report benefits to the IRS for federal taxes and that's the extent of the crossover between the two systems.

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I think it might come from people confusing unemployment with like early Social Security claiming, where there are actual penalties for taking it too early. Different programs, different rules.

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That actually makes sense as an origin for the confusion. Early SS claiming does have permanent reduction consequences so if someone half-heard that and applied it to unemployment you'd get exactly this myth.

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Also people might confuse the fact that you report unemployment on your taxes with it somehow "interacting" with retirement. It doesn't beyond the tax form.

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EDD UI and Social Security are genuinely two completely separate worlds. Even the agencies don't share data for benefit purposes. Your EDD payment history doesn't appear anywhere in your Social Security record and vice versa. Tell your coworker to file — the waiting week alone means he's already down one week of benefit he'll never get back.

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I told him what people are saying here and he's apparently finally thinking about filing. He was asking me if he missed too much time already.

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Depends on when the layoff was. The claim starts from the Sunday of the week he files. Whatever he's already missed is gone but anything from this week forward he can still get if he moves fast.

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Tell him to go to myedd.edd.ca.gov and apply online tonight if he can. Fastest way to get the claim started.

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Benefits you get from EDD are taxable federal income, as already mentioned, but I want to add that this also means EDD sends a 1099G form every January showing what you were paid. That is the only connection unemployment benefits have to any tax or government system besides EDD itself. No connection to Social Security earnings records.

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You can actually see your 1099G in UI Online too if you need it before the mail arrives. Under Payments and then Form 1099G.

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Good tip. EDD keeps them available there for five years as well so if you ever need a prior year's form it's accessible.

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Something I had to figure out when I filed last year — the waiting week is real and it applies to everyone. First eligible week is unpaid, it just counts against your claim. So even if everything goes perfectly you don't see money for about three weeks after applying because EDD takes around three weeks to process a new application and get the first payment out. That delay trips a lot of people up and they think something is wrong.

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Three weeks feels like a long time when you're not getting a paycheck. Good to know going in rather than panicking at the two-week mark.

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Exactly, and your first certification usually covers the waiting week plus the first paid week. After that you're on the every-two-weeks rhythm.

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i thought something was broken when i didn't see money right away. wish i'd known this before

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Genuinely the best thing your coworker can do is go to EDD's Unemployment Benefit Calculator on their site to see what his weekly amount would be. Seeing an actual dollar figure might make the decision easier for him. The range is $40 to $450 a week based on your highest earning quarter in the base period.

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I did that before filing and it was actually higher than I expected. Definitely helped me feel like it was worth going through the process.

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For a warehouse job depending on hours worked it can add up to real money. The calculator uses your quarterly wages so the more you earned in your best quarter the higher it goes up to that $450 ceiling.

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DE 429Z is the notice EDD mails after your application is processed — it shows your weekly benefit amount and the total your claim can pay out. That document is not an approval exactly, it just shows what's available. Actual payment happens once you certify and EDD confirms eligibility. Worth knowing what document to look for when it arrives.

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I did get that document and was confused about whether it meant I was approved. So the actual eligibility decision is separate from that notice?

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Yes, the DE 429Z just shows the financial side of your claim — how much per week and the total possible. EDD still confirms eligibility week by week when you certify. If there's ever a question about why you stopped working they may schedule a phone interview first.

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Right, and if you were simply laid off with no dispute from your employer there usually isn't a separate interview. The layoff alone is generally enough for EDD to process payments after you certify.

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CalJOBS registration is something a lot of new filers miss — EDD typically requires you to register and post a resume in CalJOBS within 21 days of when they send you the Notice of Requirement to Register (DE 8405). Missing that deadline can hold up your payments. Check your mail and your UI Online account to see if you got that notice.

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I haven't gotten that notice yet but I'll watch for it. 21 days sounds like it could sneak up on you if you're not paying attention.

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Exactly, especially with new claim processing taking a few weeks. The 21-day clock starts from the date on the DE 8405, not from when you filed. CalJOBS itself is at caljobs.ca.gov and registration is pretty straightforward.

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Also worth knowing EDD will tell you if you don't need to register in CalJOBS. Some claimants are exempt but most aren't, so assume you need to unless EDD says otherwise.

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Paycheck from last week of work finally cleared and I went ahead and certified for the first time last night. The two-week rhythm is a bit awkward to track mentally at first but the UI Online interface at myedd.edd.ca.gov walks you through it. For the original poster — the social security thing is 100% a myth, file without any hesitation.

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Already filed and got the DE 429Z so I'm past that point. Glad I didn't wait on the bad advice.

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Good move. Keep certifying on schedule and watch for any notices in the mail. Pending weeks in Claim History just means EDD is still working something — usually resolves on its own.

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EDD and Social Security literally do not share systems for benefit calculations. I work adjacent to HR and have seen a lot of people leave money on the table because of this exact myth. The federal 1099G form at year end is the only paperwork that touches both the IRS and your EDD benefits, and even that has no bearing on your Social Security account. Your coworker needs to file today.

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HR people must see this confusion constantly huh

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More than you'd think. Usually comes up right after a layoff when everyone is suddenly talking to HR about benefits and someone confuses something they half-remember about Social Security with unemployment. The myths spread fast in that moment.

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Makes sense that it spreads in layoff situations. Everyone is stressed and sharing partial information with each other and nobody stops to verify.

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After my food service job ended I had a question about whether reported tips in my base period would count toward my weekly benefit amount. Spent two days trying the EDD phone line. Ended up using Claimyr and got through to an EDD agent who pulled up my claim and confirmed my reported tip income from my W-2 was already in the base period wage calculation. The agent also told me my DE 429Z would be mailed within a few days showing my weekly amount.

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Tips being included in the base period wage calculation is good to know. I was wondering about that for a coworker in a tipped job.

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The agent was clear that it goes by what was reported on the W-2, so as long as tips were reported as wages they factor in.

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Came across this thread searching for literally the same question and glad it's here. My brother is convinced the same thing about social security and I sent him this thread. He also thinks unemployment benefits get "deducted from your employer" like they're doing him a favor but that's how the tax works — it's just a cost of business for employers, not money coming out of his pocket.

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The "employer is doing you a favor" framing is so common and it's backwards. Employers pay the UI tax whether they lay anyone off or not. When an employee files, the employer isn't personally out anything beyond what they were already paying.

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Well technically EDD charges benefits to the employer's reserve account which can affect their tax rate over time. But from the worker's perspective it's completely separate from your pay or your social security, which is the point.

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Fair clarification. The key thing for the worker is that none of this touches your personal wages, your FICA record, or your future Social Security — which is what the original question was actually about.

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DE 1101CZ goes to your employer after you file — it's EDD notifying them that you filed a claim. Your employer has 10 days to respond. For a straightforward layoff there's usually no dispute and EDD just processes things normally. Mentioning this because sometimes people worry the employer will "block" their claim but it doesn't work that way. EDD decides, not the employer.

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Knowing EDD is the one making the call and not my former employer is genuinely reassuring. I wasn't sure how much power they had in the process.

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They can respond and provide information if there's a dispute, like in a firing or a quit situation, but a standard layoff with no misconduct claim on their end? Usually pretty clean.

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And if an employer doesn't respond to the DE 1101CZ within those 10 days they lose the ability to appeal EDD's decision afterward. So it's on them to respond if they have something to say.

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Something that tripped me up early on — if weeks show as Pending in UI Online Claim History it doesn't necessarily mean anything is wrong, it just means EDD hasn't processed eligibility for those weeks yet. Could be waiting on your certification, could be waiting on an identity verification step, could just be normal processing time. It resolves once EDD works through it.

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i panicked so hard when i saw pending everywhere. glad i didn't do anything drastic like stop certifying

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Keep certifying no matter what the status shows. That's the most important thing. If you stop certifying EDD can only pay weeks that were certified.

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Good reminder. My Claim History shows a couple of pending weeks but I figured I'd just keep certifying and wait to see what happened.

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Last month I finally talked to an EDD agent about why my second certification was stuck on pending — my CalJOBS registration hadn't processed yet even though I'd signed up. Used Claimyr to get through on the phone after the UI Online live chat wait times were way over the 9 to 2 window I had available. The agent flagged my CalJOBS status and told me to allow a couple more business days for it to sync. It cleared by the end of that week.

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CalJOBS syncing with EDD taking extra time is not something I would have guessed could cause a pending week. Useful to know.

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Yeah, the agent said it's not instant and sometimes takes a few business days after you register in CalJOBS for EDD's system to reflect it. Not an error, just a timing thing.

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Since we're on the topic of what does and doesn't affect social security — just to be thorough — EDD unemployment benefits are also not counted against you for Medi-Cal or Covered California in the way some people fear. If you need health coverage after losing your job, Covered California is worth looking into, and BenefitsCal is where you apply for Medi-Cal, CalFresh, and CalWORKs. No one here can tell you exactly what you'd qualify for since that depends on income and household, but those programs exist and losing a job is exactly when to look into them.

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CalFresh is worth mentioning too — unemployment benefits count as income for eligibility purposes but you can still qualify depending on your household size and how much you receive.

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Right, the county determines CalFresh amounts so it varies. Apply at BenefitsCal or call 1-877-847-3663 and they walk you through it. Worth a shot if money is tight during the claim.

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I hadn't even thought about CalFresh as an option. Going to look into that while my claim processes. Thanks for bringing it up.

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