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Aisha Abdullah

Can you be on unemployment and work part time in California EDD?

So my hours got cut down to about 15 a week at my restaurant job starting three weeks ago. My manager said it's slow season and they can't guarantee me more shifts for at least another couple months. A coworker told me I should file for unemployment but I honestly didn't even know that was something you could do if you still have a job. Like I thought unemployment was only for people who got completely laid off with zero income. Do I even qualify if I'm still technically employed? And if I do get approved, what happens when I work some weeks and not others - do I have to report what I earn each week? I don't want to mess anything up and end up owing money back or getting in trouble. Anyone dealt with this situation before?

Part-time earnings on a UI claim - this came up on my own claim last spring when I went from full-time down to three shifts a week at a warehouse. Used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an EDD agent because I'd been getting nowhere with the phones on my own. The agent pulled up my claim and walked me through exactly how the earnings offset works: EDD takes your weekly benefit amount, ignores the first $25 or 25 percent of whatever you grossed that week (whichever of those two is bigger), then subtracts the rest from your weekly benefit. So if your weekly benefit amount is, say, $380 and you earn $160 in a week, EDD ignores $40 (25 percent of $160), and subtracts the remaining $120, so you'd get $260 that week. You still get something, just reduced. The agent also confirmed I had to report wages for the week I actually earned them, not the week my paycheck came. That part matters a lot. Claimyr's video on reaching a live person at EDD is at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 if the phone situation is a headache for you.

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Wait so the $25 or 25 percent - whichever is bigger? I always assumed it was just a flat $25 so this is actually way more helpful than I expected. So on a week where I earn like $200, 25 percent of that is $50, and $50 is bigger than $25, so EDD ignores $50 and subtracts $150 from my benefit amount?

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Exactly right. The 25 percent rule helps more the more you earn. The agent was pretty clear about that math being automatic on EDD's end once you report your wages correctly during certification.

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Saving this explanation, the $25 vs 25% thing confused me forever. My DE 429Z showed my weekly amount but I had no idea what would happen to it if I picked up shifts.

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DE 429Z is the award notice EDD mails after processing your application - it shows your weekly benefit amount and the total your claim can pay. Good thing to keep handy so you know your numbers before you work out the math.

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Filing while still employed part-time is completely valid in California. The cut in hours is what matters - you lost wages through no fault of your own, which is what EDD cares about. Apply at https://myedd.edd.ca.gov/ and when they ask why you're filing, explain the hours reduction. EDD will determine your weekly benefit amount from your base period wages, and then each time you certify you report what you actually earned that two-week period.

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Okay I'll start the application tonight. Do I need my pay stubs ready or just know my rough earnings?

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Have your Social Security number, your employer's full address, and a rough history of your wages from the last 18 months if possible. Pay stubs or W-2s help you fill it in accurately but EDD also verifies wages with employers. The more accurate you are upfront the smoother it goes.

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Also get your state ID or driver license number ready - EDD uses ID.me for identity verification now and you'll need to verify before your claim processes.

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One thing that tripped me up when I was in a similar situation at a catering company: report wages for the week you WORKED them, not the week you got paid. My pay always came the Friday after the week I worked so I was doing it wrong for a few certifications before someone corrected me. If you work Monday through Wednesday of a given week, those wages go in that week even if the check doesn't arrive until the following week.

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This is really important, thank you. My restaurant pays biweekly so I could definitely see myself making this mistake.

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Same error I almost made. The certification asks what you earned for each week in the period, and they mean earned not received. Gets confusing when your pay cycle doesn't line up with EDD's two-week certification windows.

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Exactly and if you realize you reported a week wrong after the fact, you can't fix it in UI Online - you have to contact EDD directly through a UI Online message or by phone to get it corrected.

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Does full time work in one week of a two week certification period completely disqualify BOTH weeks or just the one week you worked full time?

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Just that specific week. EDD looks at each week individually. If you work full time in week one but only part time in week two of a certification period, you'd be ineligible for week one and the reduced benefit formula would apply to week two.

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That's a relief actually. I had a situation where I covered a bunch of shifts for a sick coworker and was worried I'd lose the whole certification period.

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EDD really does evaluate each week on its own. I covered a lot of extra hours one week last year and got nothing for that week but still got a partial benefit for the other week in the same certification.

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MAKE SURE you register in CalJOBS and post your resume - EDD sends a Notice of Requirement to Register for Work (DE 8405) and you have 21 days from the date on that notice to get your CalJOBS profile up. Missing that deadline can stop your payments cold even if everything else is perfect.

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Oh I had no idea about CalJOBS - does that apply even if I'm still employed part time? Like I'm not fully out of a job.

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Usually yes, though EDD can waive it in certain situations. The safest move is to register anyway - it only takes maybe 20 minutes and it's caljobs.ca.gov. EDD will tell you if you don't need to but don't assume.

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The CalJOBS requirement surprised me too. The DE 8405 showed up in my mailbox about a week and a half after I applied and I almost threw it out thinking it was junk mail. Read every piece of mail from EDD carefully.

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genuinely didn't know you could file if still employed lol, been complaining about cut hours for two months thinking i had no options

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Same honestly, I really thought it was only for people with zero income. Wish someone had told me earlier.

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applying tonight fr

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The waiting week thing is worth knowing about before you get your first payment. Every California UI claim has one unpaid week at the start - you serve it, certify through it, but you don't get paid for it. So your first certification usually covers that waiting week plus one paid week. Don't panic when your first payment is smaller than expected.

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So I'm essentially not getting paid for one week total across the whole claim? That's a little annoying but good to know so I'm not confused when the first payment comes in.

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Right, just the one week at the very beginning. It doesn't change how much your claim can pay total - it's more like a delay than a reduction in your overall benefits.

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The waiting week got me so stressed when I first filed, I thought EDD had made an error. Checked UI Online like six times that day.

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The claim starts on the Sunday of the week you apply so if you're on the fence about when to file, sooner is better. You can't go back and claim weeks before your filing date.

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Filing tonight then, didn't realize the start date was tied to when I actually apply.

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A lot of people wait hoping the situation resolves itself and then lose those weeks forever. File as soon as you know your hours are cut.

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Quick thing I want to flag - my manager actually told me filing unemployment while still employed could get me fired. Is that true? Can an employer retaliate?

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Filing a UI claim is a legal right in California. EDD does notify your employer when you file - they receive a Notice of Unemployment Insurance Claim Filed (DE 1101CZ) and have 10 days to respond if they want to. But the act of filing itself is protected. What your manager said isn't a rule.

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Good to know. I was nervous bringing it up at work at all.

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My employer found out when I filed after an hours cut and honestly nothing happened. They responded to EDD, EDD processed it, I got benefits. Not a word from management about it.

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Hours cut down from 40 to 18 at a retail job last fall - my DE 429Z showed a weekly benefit amount of $310. With the partial earnings formula I was still clearing around $180-$220 most weeks depending on my shifts. It definitely wasn't full income replacement but it covered my car payment and groceries while I looked for something better.

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This is really helpful to hear as a real example. I'm already doing math on what I might expect. What was the turnaround like from applying to first payment?

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About three weeks from when I applied to when that first payment hit my Money Network card. EDD says it takes roughly that long to process a new claim.

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Money Network card - is that automatic or do I have to sign up for it?

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EDD sends it automatically unless you go into myEDD and set up direct deposit. I just kept the card because it was easy.

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someone told me unemployment checks get reported to your employer and they can cut your hours more to mess with your benefits. is that actually how it works

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Not quite right. EDD notifies the employer that a claim was filed - that's the DE 1101CZ - but it doesn't report your weekly benefit payments to your employer on an ongoing basis. And your employer can't legally file a claim on your behalf or deny you benefits - EDD makes the eligibility call, not the employer.

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ok that makes more sense. i heard that from someone who filed years ago so probably old information anyway

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Vacation pay and holiday pay are on EDD's list of things to report when certifying - same with severance if that ever applies, tips, bonuses, all of it. For the OP's situation with restaurant work, tips are wages and they go in your certification for the week you earned them.

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Oh wow I did not think about tips at all. So I report my hourly wages AND my tip income each week?

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Yes, report what you actually grossed including tips for the week you earned them. EDD applies the same offset formula to your total gross earnings for the week.

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Restaurant workers especially need to be careful about this. Cash tips are still income, still reportable. If EDD later finds unreported earnings that's how you end up with an overpayment notice.

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my coworker said you can only collect unemployment if you got fired, not if your hours just got cut. is she wrong?

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She's wrong on this one. A significant reduction in hours qualifies as a partial job separation in California - you're out of work through no fault of your own, which is exactly what UI covers. Fired, laid off, and significantly reduced hours all can qualify. The rules aren't limited to firings.

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i figured but she was pretty confident about it lol. applying now

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DE 4800 is the notice to watch for if EDD schedules a phone interview - it shows the date and time the interviewer will call. For part-time hour reductions it usually isn't needed, but if EDD has questions about your situation one will be scheduled. The time is also shown on your UI Online homepage. Keep your phone nearby at that exact time.

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Should I expect an interview for sure or is it not always required?

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Not always required for a straightforward hours reduction where you're still with the same employer. If EDD needs more info they'll schedule one, and the DE 4800 will come in the mail. Just make sure your contact info is current in myEDD.

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If you do miss the scheduled time for any reason, phone EDD that same day. Missing it and doing nothing is what can really delay or deny your benefits.

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Afternoon shifts at a hotel front desk got cut from 5 days to 2 starting in October - filed for the difference and the partial earnings formula has been keeping me afloat. Claimyr got me through to an agent when I had a pending week that showed up out of nowhere in my Claim History. The agent found that one week from early November was flagged for a wage verification - told me EDD had a question about one pay period I'd reported and that it would clear once their review finished. Filed a message through UI Online the same day explaining my payroll cycle and it was resolved the following week.

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How long did your pending week stay pending before the agent told you that? I'm a little anxious about anything showing up like that on my claim.

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About 10 days before I actually got through to someone to ask. After the agent explained it and I sent the UI Online message it cleared in another week. Total about three weeks of that one week being held up, which was frustrating but it did resolve.

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Good to know that pending weeks can have specific reasons behind them. I always assumed pending just meant the whole claim was stuck.

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The benefits themselves are federal taxable income but California doesn't tax them at the state level - so your EDD payments will show up on your federal return but not your state return. At each certification you can choose to have 10 percent withheld for federal taxes. EDD mails a Form 1099G in January and it's also in UI Online under Payments.

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Good to know ahead of time. I'd rather not get surprised with a tax bill in the spring. Is the 10 percent withholding enough to cover it usually?

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It depends on your total income for the year. If restaurant work is your main income and you're only getting partial UI benefits, 10 percent is probably in the right range but it's worth talking to a tax person. I always just choose the withholding to be safe.

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EDD pays nothing at the state level but the federal piece catches people off guard every year. Learned this the hard way my first time filing.

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Partial UI while working part-time saved me during a slow construction season two years back. Filed when my hours dropped from full time down to about 20 a week. The partial earnings formula meant even weeks when I picked up a full five days I'd get zero benefit for that week, but most weeks I still got something. Ended up reopening the same claim when the slow period stretched longer than expected.

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How does reopening a claim work - is it complicated?

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If your benefit year is still open you just reopen through UI Online, it's pretty quick. No need to file a whole new application. The option shows up in your account.

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That's good to know for down the road. My manager did say the slow season might stretch into spring.

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been on partial UI for six weeks now working part time at a coffee shop. honestly the two week certification rhythm took a couple cycles to get used to but once you know the schedule it's pretty automatic

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How do you know when your certification window opens?

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UI Online shows it on your homepage. After you certify you can basically count forward two weeks and that's roughly when the next one opens. EDD also texts or emails reminders if you have those set up in your account.

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the two week thing confused me at first because i kept checking ui online every day waiting for it to open lol

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Applying at a restaurant where tips are part of income - the base period wages EDD uses to calculate your weekly benefit amount come from payroll records, not tips you might have underreported to your employer. If your reportable wages look low because tip reporting was inconsistent, your weekly benefit amount might be lower than you expect. Something to be aware of going in.

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That's a bit of a bummer but I appreciate the heads up. I always report my tips on my employer's end so hopefully it's accurate.

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Then you should be in good shape. EDD's Unemployment Benefit Calculator on its site can give you an estimate based on your quarterly earnings - worth running through before you apply so you know roughly what to expect.

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The calculator is on edd.ca.gov - searching 'EDD unemployment benefit calculator' finds it fast. It won't be exact but it gives you a ballpark from your quarterly wages.

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Partial claim going into month two - used Claimyr when my second certification came back with two pending weeks and I couldn't get through on the main EDD line. The agent confirmed both weeks were processing normally and that my income reporting from that certification matched what my employer had submitted. Nothing was actually wrong, the system just needed a few more days. Stopped checking my Claim History every two hours after that.

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Honestly just knowing there's a way to actually talk to someone if something looks off is reassuring. I've heard horror stories about never being able to reach EDD.

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The phones can be rough during peak times. Getting an actual answer about what's on your specific claim makes a huge difference versus just staring at Pending and guessing.

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The 'pending for no visible reason' situation is so stressful. Good to know there's a path to actually finding out what's going on.

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Someone upthread said you need to do work searches even while still employed part time - is that true? I'm not looking for other work, I'm hoping my hours go back up at my current job.

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You're still required to be able to work, available for work, and looking for work every week you certify - that's the standard for collecting UI regardless of your situation. EDD's pages don't state a specific number of contacts to make, but the requirement exists. If EDD ever questions it, you want to have been genuinely available.

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Okay so I still have to be actively looking even if I expect my hours to come back? That feels weird.

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The requirement is there for every week you're collecting. What you're hoping happens with your current job doesn't change EDD's eligibility rules for the weeks you're certifying.

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Makes sense I guess. I'll keep applying to other places just in case my hours don't bounce back anyway.

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