Can substitute teachers claim EDD unemployment between assignments?
I've been working as a substitute teacher for the past 7 months, but the work is super inconsistent. Some weeks I get called for 3-4 days, other weeks absolutely nothing. Summer break is coming up soon, and I'm wondering if I can file for unemployment when school's out or even during weeks when I don't get any sub assignments? The district doesn't guarantee me any minimum hours, and I'm barely making rent with the sporadic income. Has anyone in a similar situation successfully claimed unemployment benefits? I'm confused about whether being a sub counts as "seasonal work" or if I'm considered "on call" or something else entirely. Any advice would be appreciated!
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Connor O'Brien
Yes, you can potentially qualify for unemployment as a substitute teacher, but it's complicated. You need to show you're "available for work" while not having enough hours. During the school year, you can claim for weeks when you get zero assignments, BUT you must report any income for weeks you do work (even if it's just one day). Summer break is different - you might qualify if you don't have "reasonable assurance" of returning in fall. If you're not guaranteed to be rehired after summer, apply! If they sent you a letter saying they'll call you again in fall, it's trickier but still worth applying. Make sure to explain your situation carefully when filing.
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Natasha Petrov
•Thanks for this detailed info! I haven't received any assurance letter for fall yet. Do you know if I need to provide any special documentation when I apply? I'm a bit worried because when I mentioned this to another sub, she said EDD automatically denies educational employees during summer breaks.
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Amina Diallo
I've been down this road before as a substitute teacher. Here's what happens: During the school year, you CAN claim unemployment for weeks you get zero assignments. Each week when you certify, you report any work/income from subbing. Summer is where it gets tricky - if the district sent you a "reasonable assurance" letter (basically saying they'll put you back on the sub list in fall), EDD will likely deny benefits for the summer break period. If you didn't get such a letter, you have a stronger case. Either way, I recommend applying - worst case they deny you, but they might approve. Just be 100% honest about your work situation when certifying.
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GamerGirl99
•This isnt always true tho. my cousin is a sub and they denied her even during school year saying she was "attached to the school industry" whatever that means. EDD rules make no sense sometimes!!
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Natasha Petrov
Thanks everyone for the responses so far. I'm still a bit confused about the "reasonable assurance" part. I checked my emails and I don't see anything specifically guaranteeing me a position for next school year, but I did sign a form back in September that said I'd be on the sub list for the 2024-2025 academic year. Does that count as reasonable assurance? Also, if I do apply, should I file now or wait until the last day of school?
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Connor O'Brien
•That form might count as reasonable assurance, but it depends on the exact wording. If it GUARANTEES you'll be on the list vs just saying you're eligible to be on the list, that's different. As for timing, I'd suggest applying right after your last day of school - if you apply too early, they might think you're still actively working. Make sure to save copies of any communications with the district about your employment status!
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Hiroshi Nakamura
i was a sub for 3 yrs and got unemployment every summer! trick is being honest but strategic. when they ask if you have reasonable assurane of work, you have to consider if you REALLY do. most districts don't guarantee hours for subs, so technically you DON'T have assurance of actual work. they might put you on a list but that doesn't mean you'll get called! apply and explain your situation clearlt. worst thing is they say no
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Natasha Petrov
•Thanks for sharing your experience! That gives me hope. Did EDD require you to look for other work during summer while collecting benefits?
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Isabella Costa
Everyone here is giving advice but nobody mentioned the MOST IMPORTANT THING: you need to have earned enough in your base period to qualify!!! EDD looks at your earnings from about 15-18 months ago, not just your recent months. If you only started subbing 7 months ago, make sure you had other jobs before that or you might not qualify based on earnings requirement alone.
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Natasha Petrov
•Oh wow, I didn't realize that! Before subbing I worked full-time at a retail job for about 2 years, so hopefully those earnings would count toward the base period. Thank you for pointing that out!
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Malik Jenkins
I've been through this exact situation. Trying to speak with EDD about substitute teaching was IMPOSSIBLE. I spent weeks calling hundreds of times just to get disconnected over and over. I finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an actual person who could understand my unique situation. They have a demo video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10?si=TSwYbu_GOwYzt9km. Once I got through, the EDD rep confirmed I could claim unemployment during weeks I had zero assignments AND during summer if I didn't have a guarantee of work in fall. Being able to explain my situation to a real person made all the difference - the online forms don't handle sub teaching situations well.
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GamerGirl99
•does this actually work?? i've been trying to call edd for 2 weeks about my claim!
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Freya Andersen
THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST SUBS!!! I tried this last year and EDD denied me saying I had "reasonable assurance" even though my district NEVER guaranteed me any hours! They just said I "might" get calls next year! HOW IS THAT ASSURANCE?!?! I appealed and had to wait 4 MONTHS for a hearing where they finally reversed it. By then summer was over! The whole system is designed to deny benefits to school workers. FIGHT BACK and APPEAL if denied!!!
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Natasha Petrov
•That sounds incredibly frustrating, I'm sorry you went through that. If I get denied initially, I'll definitely remember to appeal. Did you have any specific evidence that helped win your appeal?
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Eduardo Silva
My sister substitute teaches and this reminds me of her situation last year. She applied during summer and got benefits for 6 weeks until school started again. She said the key was that her district didn't send the reasonable assurance letter until late June, so she applied before receiving it. However, during the school year she didn't bother applying during weeks with no assignments because the paperwork was too complicated for just a week of benefits here and there. Good luck!
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Natasha Petrov
•Thanks for sharing your sister's experience! I'll check with my district HR about when they typically send out reasonable assurance letters.
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Connor O'Brien
One more important point: if you do qualify for unemployment, you MUST be available for and actively seeking full-time work. This means you can't turn down suitable job offers because you're waiting for school to restart. You'll need to document your work search activities when you certify every two weeks. Some substitute teachers find they actually earn more during summer by taking temporary full-time jobs instead of collecting unemployment. Consider all your options!
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Natasha Petrov
•That's a great point about the work search requirement. I'm definitely open to other employment during the summer - honestly, I'd prefer steady work over unemployment benefits. I'll start looking for summer positions while also preparing my EDD application as a backup plan. Thank you!
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Carmen Vega
I went through this same situation a few years ago as a substitute teacher. Here's what I learned: you CAN claim unemployment during weeks with zero assignments during the school year, but you must report ANY income from subbing when certifying. For summer, it really depends on whether you receive a "reasonable assurance" letter. I didn't get one until mid-July, so I was able to collect benefits for about 6 weeks. The key is being completely honest about your situation - don't try to hide that you're a sub, but emphasize that you have NO guarantee of work or hours. I also kept detailed records of my work search efforts and any communication with the district. One tip: if you do apply and get approved, consider it a bridge while actively looking for summer employment. The benefits helped me survive until I found a temporary summer job that actually paid better than inconsistent subbing. Document everything and don't give up if initially denied!
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PaulineW
As someone who's been substitute teaching for 3 years, I can confirm that you absolutely CAN claim unemployment benefits! The key things to know: 1) During the school year, you can claim for weeks with zero assignments - just report any income from days you do work when certifying. 2) For summer, if you don't receive a "reasonable assurance" letter guaranteeing you'll be called back, you should definitely apply. Even if you did sign that form in September, it doesn't necessarily count as reasonable assurance if it doesn't guarantee actual work hours. 3) Since you worked retail for 2 years before subbing, you should easily meet the earnings requirement for your base period. My advice: apply right after your last day of school and be completely transparent about your situation. Emphasize that while you might be on a sub list, you have NO guarantee of being called or getting minimum hours. The worst they can say is no, but many subs do get approved. Good luck and don't let anyone discourage you from trying!
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Chris King
•This is really helpful, thank you! I feel much more confident about applying now. Just to clarify - when you say "be completely transparent," do you mean I should mention in my application that I'm a substitute teacher right from the start? I'm worried they'll automatically flag me as ineligible if I mention it too early in the process. Also, did you have to provide any special documentation about your substitute status when you applied?
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Rajan Walker
I'm a substitute teacher who just went through this process successfully! Here's what worked for me: Yes, absolutely mention you're a substitute teacher from the beginning - trying to hide it will only cause problems later. When I applied online, I selected "Education" as my industry and was completely upfront about being a substitute with no guaranteed hours. EDD actually has specific questions about educational employees, so they're used to these situations. For documentation, I provided: 1) My substitute teaching permit, 2) A letter from HR confirming I was on the sub list with no guaranteed hours, and 3) Records showing my inconsistent work pattern. The key phrase I used was "no reasonable assurance of work" - this is the legal language that matters. I got approved for both weeks with zero assignments during the school year AND for summer break since my district never sent a guarantee letter. One tip: when you certify each week, be precise about reporting sub income - even if you only worked one day, report that exact amount. The system is designed to handle partial unemployment. Don't let anyone scare you away from applying - substitute teachers have successfully claimed benefits for years!
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Yuki Kobayashi
•This is exactly the kind of detailed guidance I was hoping for! Thank you so much for breaking down the process step by step. I'm definitely going to request that letter from HR confirming my substitute status with no guaranteed hours - that sounds like crucial documentation. One quick follow-up question: when you say you reported "exact amounts" for sub income, did you report gross pay or net pay after taxes? I want to make sure I'm doing this correctly from the start. Your success story gives me a lot of confidence that this is worth pursuing!
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Sofia Morales
•You report gross pay (before taxes) when certifying for unemployment benefits. EDD wants to know your total earnings from work, not what you take home after deductions. So if you worked one day as a sub and earned $150 gross, that's what you report even if you only took home $120 after taxes. Make sure to keep good records of your daily sub pay rates - I used a simple spreadsheet to track each assignment with date, school, and gross pay. This made weekly certification much easier and helped me stay organized in case EDD ever requested documentation. Also remember that you can still receive partial unemployment benefits even on weeks when you work 1-2 days as a sub, as long as your earnings don't exceed your weekly benefit amount!
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Mikayla Brown
I'm a substitute teacher in a similar situation and just wanted to add my experience! I've been collecting unemployment during weeks with no assignments for the past year. One thing that really helped me was keeping a detailed log of every day I was available to work but didn't get called - this showed EDD that I was ready and willing to work but simply wasn't getting assignments. When I applied, I emphasized that substitute teaching is inherently unpredictable and that being "on the sub list" doesn't guarantee any income. During my phone interview with EDD, they specifically asked about my availability and I explained that I check my phone every morning hoping for calls but many weeks get nothing. The representative understood that this isn't like a regular part-time job where you have set hours. My advice: apply as soon as your school year ends, keep records of everything, and don't be discouraged if the initial online application seems confusing for educational workers - the phone interview is where you can really explain your unique situation!
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Zane Gray
•This is such valuable advice, thank you! The idea of keeping a detailed log of available days with no calls is brilliant - I never thought about documenting it that way but it makes perfect sense as evidence. I've been just mentally noting the frustrating mornings when my phone doesn't ring, but actually writing it down would create a clear paper trail. Did you use any specific format for your log, or just simple notes like "Available March 15th - no calls received"? Also, you mentioned a phone interview with EDD - is that standard for all substitute teacher applications, or did they call because your case needed clarification? I'm trying to prepare for every step of this process!
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Zainab Ismail
I've been a substitute teacher for 5 years and have successfully navigated the EDD system multiple times! Here's my practical advice: First, you absolutely CAN claim unemployment as a sub - don't let anyone tell you otherwise. The key is understanding that substitute teaching falls into a gray area that EDD handles case-by-case. During the school year, claim benefits for any week you receive ZERO assignments, but always report income for weeks you do work (even one day). For summer break, the "reasonable assurance" letter is crucial - if you haven't received one by mid-June, apply immediately! Even if you signed a general sub agreement, that's not the same as guaranteed work. I keep a simple calendar marking every day I was available but not called - this documentation has been invaluable during EDD interviews. Pro tip: when you apply, use phrases like "irregular work pattern," "no guaranteed hours," and "income insufficient to meet basic needs." These are terms EDD recognizes. Also, be prepared that your first application might get denied automatically - about 60% of educational worker claims get initially rejected, but many succeed on appeal. The system is complicated but substitute teachers DO qualify when they meet the criteria. Don't give up!
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Vince Eh
•This is incredibly thorough and reassuring - thank you! I really appreciate the specific language suggestions like "irregular work pattern" and "income insufficient to meet basic needs." Those sound much more official than how I would naturally describe my situation. Your point about 60% of educational worker claims getting initially denied is both concerning and oddly comforting - at least I'll know not to take it personally if that happens! I'm definitely going to start that calendar documentation right away, even though the school year is almost over. Quick question: when you mention EDD interviews, are these phone calls that happen automatically, or do you have to request them? I want to make sure I'm prepared for every step of this process. Your 5 years of experience navigating this system gives me so much confidence that it's possible!
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Anastasia Popova
As a substitute teacher who successfully received unemployment benefits last summer, I wanted to share what worked for me! The most important thing is understanding that EDD looks at whether you have "reasonable assurance" of work - not just whether you're on a sub list. Here's what I did: 1) Applied immediately after my last school day in June, 2) Emphasized in my application that being on the sub list doesn't guarantee any income or even a single call, 3) Kept detailed records showing my inconsistent work pattern (some weeks 0 days, others maybe 2-3), and 4) Got a letter from my district's HR confirming I had no guaranteed hours or minimum work commitment. The key phrase that helped me was explaining that substitute work is "on-call" with no assurance of actual employment. I was approved for 8 weeks of summer benefits, which was a lifesaver! Don't be discouraged if you get initially denied - many subs do but win on appeal. The system isn't perfect, but substitute teachers absolutely CAN qualify when they genuinely lack work assurance. Good luck and feel free to ask if you have specific questions about the process!
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Keisha Thompson
•This is such helpful and encouraging information! I really appreciate you sharing your successful experience. The distinction between being "on a sub list" versus having "reasonable assurance" of actual work is exactly what I needed to understand better. Your strategy of getting that HR letter confirming no guaranteed hours sounds crucial - I'm definitely going to request something similar from my district. One question: when you applied immediately after your last school day, did you wait until you had officially finished all possible assignments for the year, or did you apply as soon as you knew the regular school year was ending? I'm trying to figure out the best timing since sometimes there are random summer school or end-of-year assignments that pop up unexpectedly. Your 8 weeks of benefits sounds like it made a real difference - that gives me hope that this process can actually work!
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Paolo Bianchi
I'm a substitute teacher who went through this exact situation last year! You can definitely claim unemployment, but timing and documentation are everything. During the school year, I claimed benefits for weeks with zero calls and just reported any sub income when I did work. For summer, the key is that "reasonable assurance" letter - I never received one from my district, so I qualified for the full summer break. Here's what helped me get approved: 1) I applied the day after my last assignment ended, 2) I emphasized that being on the sub list gives me zero guarantee of actual work or income, 3) I kept a simple log showing my sporadic work pattern, and 4) I got documentation from HR stating I had no minimum hour commitments. When filling out the application, be completely honest about being a substitute teacher - don't try to hide it. Use phrases like "on-call work with no guaranteed hours" and "unpredictable income." Since you worked retail for 2 years before subbing, you should easily meet the base period earnings requirement. The process can be frustrating and you might get initially denied (it's common for educational workers), but don't give up! I ended up collecting benefits for 10 weeks last summer, which made all the difference. Apply as soon as school ends and be prepared to explain your unique situation. Good luck!
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Madeline Blaze
•This is incredibly helpful and detailed - thank you so much for sharing your successful experience! I'm really encouraged by your story and the practical steps you took. The phrase "on-call work with no guaranteed hours" is perfect for describing the substitute situation, and I love that you kept it simple with your documentation. Your point about applying the day after your last assignment ended is really useful timing guidance. I'm feeling much more confident about this whole process now after reading everyone's experiences. It sounds like being honest and persistent are the keys to success. I'm definitely going to start preparing my documentation now and apply as soon as my school year officially ends. Thanks again for taking the time to share such detailed advice!
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TommyKapitz
I'm also a substitute teacher and have been lurking in this thread because I'm in almost the exact same situation! Reading everyone's experiences has been so helpful. I want to add one thing that might be useful - when I called my district's payroll office to ask about documentation, they told me that substitute teachers are classified as "temporary employees" rather than regular part-time employees, which actually strengthens our case for unemployment. The payroll clerk even mentioned that several subs from our district have successfully claimed benefits in the past. She suggested I request a letter stating my "temporary employee" status with "no guaranteed work schedule or minimum hours." I'm planning to apply right after our last day (June 6th) and I'll definitely be using all the great language suggestions from this thread like "on-call work with no guaranteed hours" and emphasizing the unpredictable nature of substitute assignments. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's given me the confidence to actually apply instead of just struggling through another summer with no income!
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Makayla Shoemaker
•This is such a great addition to the conversation! The "temporary employee" classification is a really important distinction that I hadn't thought about before. That's brilliant that your payroll office was so helpful and even acknowledged that other subs have successfully claimed benefits - that kind of institutional knowledge is invaluable. I'm definitely going to contact my district's payroll office now to ask for similar documentation with that "temporary employee" language. It's so reassuring to see someone else in the exact same boat who's feeling confident about applying. June 6th isn't far away - good luck with your application! Please update us on how it goes if you're comfortable sharing. This whole thread has turned into such a great resource for substitute teachers navigating EDD. Thanks for adding your insights!
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Tristan Carpenter
I'm a substitute teacher who just successfully received unemployment benefits for the first time last summer, and I wanted to share some additional tips that might help! One thing I haven't seen mentioned much is that you should also document any professional development or training requirements you complete during unpaid periods - this shows EDD that you're maintaining your qualifications even when not working. I kept records of mandatory trainings, CPR renewals, and substitute workshops that I had to complete on my own time and dime. Also, when you're job searching (which you must do while collecting benefits), make sure to apply for both substitute AND regular teaching positions, tutoring jobs, educational support roles, etc. EDD wants to see that you're genuinely seeking work in your field and related areas. One last tip: if your district uses an automated calling system for sub assignments, screenshot or save evidence of weeks when you received zero calls - this provides concrete proof of your availability versus actual work offered. The whole process took about 3 weeks from application to first payment, but it was absolutely worth it. Don't let the complexity discourage you from applying - substitute teachers have legitimate claims to unemployment benefits when we lack guaranteed work!
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Max Knight
•This is such valuable additional information! The point about documenting professional development and training requirements is brilliant - I never would have thought to track those unpaid obligations, but it really does show ongoing commitment to maintaining qualifications. I've had to do several mandatory trainings on my own time this year, so I'll definitely start gathering those records. Your tip about screenshotting evidence of zero calls from the automated system is also really smart - concrete proof like that seems much stronger than just my word. The 3-week timeline from application to first payment is really helpful to know for planning purposes too. Thanks for sharing these practical details that go beyond just the basic application process - this kind of insider knowledge makes all the difference!
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Zara Malik
I'm a former substitute teacher who navigated this exact situation successfully! You absolutely CAN claim unemployment benefits, and your situation sounds very similar to mine. Here are the key points that helped me get approved: 1. **During school year**: You can claim for weeks with ZERO assignments. Just report any income when you do work (gross pay, not net). 2. **Summer break**: Since you mentioned not receiving any guarantee letter yet, you have a strong case. The fact that you signed a form in September doesn't automatically count as "reasonable assurance" - what matters is whether you have a genuine guarantee of future work and income. 3. **Documentation is crucial**: Contact your district's HR/payroll office and request a letter confirming your status as a substitute with "no guaranteed hours or minimum work commitments." Some districts will even acknowledge that subs are "temporary employees." 4. **Be completely transparent**: When applying, mention you're a substitute teacher right from the start. Use phrases like "on-call work with no guaranteed hours" and "irregular work pattern with unpredictable income." 5. **Your retail background helps**: Since you worked full-time retail for 2 years before subbing, you should easily meet the base period earnings requirement. Don't be discouraged if you get initially denied - it's common for educational workers, but many succeed on appeal. The key is emphasizing that being on a sub list doesn't guarantee actual work or income. Apply right after your last school day and keep detailed records of everything. Good luck!
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Anastasia Kozlov
•Thank you so much for this comprehensive breakdown! This is exactly what I needed to see - a clear step-by-step approach with specific language to use. I'm feeling much more confident about the whole process now. I especially appreciate your point about the September form not automatically counting as "reasonable assurance" - that distinction makes a lot of sense. I'm going to contact my district's HR office tomorrow to request that letter about my substitute status with no guaranteed hours. It's also reassuring to know that my retail background should help with the base period requirement since I was worried about that after reading Isabella's comment earlier. I plan to apply the day after my last assignment ends and will definitely use the phrases you suggested like "on-call work with no guaranteed hours." Thanks for taking the time to share such detailed and encouraging advice!
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Jackie Martinez
I'm a substitute teacher who successfully claimed unemployment benefits for both sporadic weeks during the school year and the entire summer break last year! Your situation sounds very familiar to mine. Here's what worked for me: **Key strategy**: Emphasize that substitute teaching is fundamentally different from regular part-time work. We're not employees with reduced hours - we're on-call workers with zero guarantee of being called at all. **For weekly claims during school year**: I claimed benefits for any week I received zero assignments, then reported my exact gross earnings for weeks I did work. EDD handles partial unemployment well - you can still get benefits even if you work 1-2 days as long as your weekly earnings don't exceed your benefit amount. **For summer break**: The "reasonable assurance" question is key. That September form you signed likely just puts you on an eligible list - it doesn't guarantee you'll actually be offered work or have any minimum income. When I applied, I emphasized that being "on the list" means nothing if the phone doesn't ring. **Documentation that helped me**: I kept a simple calendar marking every day I was available but didn't get called, plus I got a letter from HR confirming my "temporary employee status with no guaranteed work schedule." **Timeline tip**: Apply immediately after your last assignment ends. Don't wait for an official reasonable assurance letter - if they were going to send one, it would typically come by mid-June. The process took about 3 weeks from application to first payment, and it made a huge difference during those lean summer months. Don't let anyone discourage you - substitute teachers absolutely qualify when we genuinely lack work guarantees!
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Caleb Stark
•This is such a comprehensive and encouraging response - thank you! I really appreciate how you broke down the difference between being a "regular part-time employee" versus an "on-call worker with zero guarantee" - that framing makes so much sense and really captures the reality of substitute teaching. Your point about the September form just putting me on an "eligible list" rather than guaranteeing actual work is exactly the distinction I needed to understand. I'm definitely going to start that calendar documentation right away and contact HR for that letter about temporary employee status. The 3-week timeline from application to payment is really helpful for planning too. It's so reassuring to hear from someone who successfully navigated both the weekly claims during school year AND summer benefits. I'm feeling much more confident about applying now - thanks for sharing your experience and strategy!
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Chloe Mitchell
I'm a substitute teacher who went through this exact process last year and wanted to add a few practical tips that really helped me! Beyond all the great advice already shared, here are some specific things to consider: **Before applying**: Call your district's benefits office (not just HR) - they often have more detailed information about substitute employment classification and may have template letters they've provided to other subs for EDD purposes. **Application strategy**: When describing your work pattern, be specific with numbers. I wrote something like "worked 0 days in 8 out of 20 weeks this semester" - concrete data helps EDD understand the inconsistency better than general descriptions. **During the process**: Save EVERYTHING - emails about available assignments, your substitute portal login history showing when you checked for jobs, even text screenshots if your district uses those. I had to provide additional documentation during my claim review and having everything organized made a huge difference. **Work search requirement**: Remember that while collecting benefits, you'll need to document job search activities. Apply for summer camps, tutoring centers, educational nonprofits, etc. - not just traditional teaching jobs. **Patience with the system**: My initial application was "pending" for almost 5 weeks before approval. Don't panic if it takes time - the system moves slowly but many subs do get approved eventually. The financial relief during summer was incredible after months of unpredictable income. Definitely worth the paperwork hassle! Feel free to ask if you have questions about any specific part of the process.
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