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StarStrider

Will CalWORKs/CalFresh find out my partner got a job if we don't report income using his SSN?

Hey everyone, kinda nervous to ask this but I need advice. Our family (me, my boyfriend, and our son) gets CalWORKs cash aid and CalFresh. We've been struggling but the benefits have been helping us get by. My boyfriend just landed a job last week and they have his social security number for the paperwork. The thing is, we used his SSN when we applied for benefits too. I'm worried about our benefits getting cut if I report his new income since we really need the money right now with rent going up. If I don't report his job right away, can the CalWORKs office automatically find out he's working? Do they check employment records with his social security number? Just trying to figure out our options before our next SAR7.

Luca Esposito

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They WILL find out, and when they do, you'll end up with a huge overpayment that you'll have to pay back. CalWORKs and CalFresh both use income verification systems that match SSNs with employment records. It's called the Income Eligibility Verification System (IEVS). They might not catch it immediately, but they almost always do eventually, and then you'll owe ALL the money back that you weren't entitled to. You're required to report within 10 days when your household income exceeds the Income Reporting Threshold (IRT) listed on your last approval notice. Even if it doesn't exceed the IRT, you still need to report it on your next SAR7. Don't risk it. An overpayment can turn into a fraud case if they think you deliberately hid income.

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StarStrider

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Omg I didn't realize they could make us pay everything back! How far back can they go? What if his job is only temporary? Do I need to report it right away or can I wait for my SAR7 in 2 months?

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Nia Thompson

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I was in the same boat last year my bf got a job and i didnt report it for like 3 months. BIG MISTAKE!! They found out and now we have a $3897 overpayment we gotta pay back AND they reduced our benefits for 6 months as a penalty. they deff check that stuff with social security numbers i learned the hard way

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StarStrider

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That's scary! Did they make you pay it all back at once or could you do a payment plan? I'm worried we'll end up homeless if we lose our benefits suddenly but I don't want to get in trouble either.

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To directly answer your question: Yes, CalWORKs and CalFresh can and will discover unreported employment through quarterly wage data matches with EDD (Employment Development Department). They use your partner's SSN to cross-reference employment records. You should report the change within 10 days if his income exceeds your IRT (Income Reporting Threshold). You'll find your specific IRT amount on your last approval notice. Even if it's below the IRT, you must report it on your next SAR7. Keep in mind that reporting income doesn't automatically mean losing all benefits. The programs have earned income disregards - they don't count every dollar earned when calculating benefits. For CalWORKs, they disregard the first $450 plus 50% of the remaining earned income. CalFresh has a 20% earned income deduction. Report the change promptly, provide all requested verification, and the county will recalculate your benefits accordingly.

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this is all correct info but the cash aid disregard is actually $500 now in 2025!! they increased it from $450. makes a difference!

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Ethan Wilson

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you should just report it and get it over with... my cousin hid income for almost a year and ended up with FRAUD charges!!! not worth it trust me

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StarStrider

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Seriously?? Actual fraud charges? Did they have to go to court or just pay back money? I'm getting really scared now.

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To clarify about penalties: There are three types of violations: 1. Inadvertent Household Error: An honest mistake results in just paying back the overpayment. 2. Administrative Error: If the county made the mistake, you might still need to repay but with more flexible terms. 3. Intentional Program Violation (IPV): If they determine you deliberately concealed information, penalties include benefit disqualification (3-12 months first offense, 12-24 months second offense, permanent disqualification third offense), financial penalties, and in serious cases, criminal prosecution. If the county suspects fraud, they refer the case to their Special Investigations Unit. They can conduct interviews with employers, check bank records, and even conduct surveillance in serious cases. As others mentioned, they'll set up a repayment plan if you can't pay a lump sum. For active cases, they typically reduce your benefits by 10% until it's repaid.

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NeonNova

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This is why I hate the system!!!! They make it IMPOSSIBLE to get ahead. The moment you start making a little money they cut you off and then you're worse off than before. What incentive is there to work when they take away more in benefits than you earn? It's a poverty trap by design!

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Yuki Tanaka

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has anyone tried calling to report income changes lately?? i tried 6 times last month and got hung up on every time!!! so frustrating

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Try Claimyr! I was having the same problem trying to report income changes for my CalWORKs case. The county phone system kept disconnecting me after waiting for over an hour. I found this service called Claimyr at claimyr.com where they wait on hold with the county and call you when a real person answers. Saved me hours of frustration and got my income change reported right away. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/jzISHxCPLwE

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StarStrider

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Thanks everyone for the advice. I'm definitely going to report the new job. I checked and found our IRT letter - it says $2780 for our family size and my boyfriend will make about $2400 a month at his new job. So if I understand right, I should still report it on the SAR7 in 2 months, but don't need to do a special report right now since it's under our IRT? And the income disregards mean we might still get some cash aid even with his new job?

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That's mostly correct. If his income is below your IRT, you can wait until your next SAR7 to report it. However, keep in mind that the $2400 is gross income (before taxes). The income disregards apply to gross income, not net income. With the $500 disregard plus 50% of remaining earned income mentioned earlier, they would disregard $500 + $950 (half of $1900) = $1450 of his earnings when calculating your CalWORKs grant. So only $950 of his earnings would count against your grant. This often means families can continue receiving some cash aid while working. CalFresh calculations are different, with a 20% earned income deduction instead. Just make absolutely sure you report it on your next SAR7 and include his paystubs.

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NeonNova

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I'm sorry but this system is SUCH a trap. They give you barely enough to survive, then when you finally find work they take away your benefits AND charge you OVERPAYMENTS if you don't report EXACTLY on time!!! How are people supposed to ever get ahead? It's all designed to keep people POOR and DESPERATE. I bet they have a quota for "fraud" cases they need to meet every year. The whole thing makes me SICK.

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Nia Thompson

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i get what ur saying but its still better to follow the rules... i learned that the hard way lol. but i agree they dont make it easy to get ahead

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TommyKapitz

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I understand how overwhelming this feels! I just went through something similar last year. The good news is that since your boyfriend's income ($2400) is below your IRT ($2780), you have until your next SAR7 to report it - no need to panic about the 10-day rule right now. But here's what I wish someone had told me: even though you can wait, I'd honestly recommend reporting it sooner rather than later. The county workers are usually more understanding when you're proactive about reporting changes, and it shows good faith if any issues come up later. Also, don't forget that with the $500 disregard plus 50% of remaining income, you'll likely still qualify for some cash aid! Run the numbers: $500 + 50% of $1900 = $1450 disregarded, so only $950 counts against your grant. You might be surprised how much you can still receive. One tip: when you do report, make sure to ask about transitional benefits and childcare assistance - there are programs specifically designed to help families transition to work without losing everything at once. You've got this! Taking care of your family while navigating these systems is hard work, but you're doing the right thing by asking questions and planning ahead.

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Thank you so much for this! This is exactly the kind of reassuring but realistic advice I needed. I didn't know about transitional benefits or childcare assistance - that could be a game changer for us. You're right that being proactive probably looks better than waiting until the last minute. I think I'll call next week to report it early and ask about those other programs you mentioned. It's scary making this transition but knowing we might still get some help makes it feel more manageable.

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Carmen Ortiz

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I'm new to this community but wanted to share what I learned when I was in a similar situation. The key thing to understand is that California has something called the "cliff effect" - where small increases in income can lead to big losses in benefits. But they've actually made some improvements to help with this! Since your boyfriend's income is under your IRT, you do have time, but I'd suggest reporting it early like others mentioned. When you do, ask specifically about: 1. **Cal-Learn program** if you're under 19 - provides extra support for young parents 2. **Supportive Services** - can help with work clothes, transportation, etc. 3. **The 60-month time clock** - his employment might qualify you for "good cause" exemptions Also, something I didn't see mentioned: if this is his first job in a while, they might apply the "new employment" rules which can be more favorable for the first few months. One more tip - document EVERYTHING. Take photos of his pay stubs, keep records of when you report, save emails/letters. If any issues come up later, having good records makes a huge difference. You're being smart by asking questions first. The system is complicated but there are people (like the folks here) who want to help you navigate it successfully!

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Paolo Conti

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This is such helpful information! I had never heard of Cal-Learn or the "new employment" rules before. Since my boyfriend hasn't worked in about 8 months, this could definitely apply to us. Do you know how long the "new employment" period lasts? And what kind of supportive services are available? I'm thinking things like work clothes and maybe bus passes could really help him keep this job. Thanks for mentioning the documentation too - I'm definitely going to start taking pictures of everything. It's so reassuring to know there are actually programs designed to help people transition to work instead of just cutting them off completely!

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I just wanted to chime in as someone who's been through the CalWORKs system for a few years now. The advice everyone's giving is spot on - definitely report the income change! One thing I learned that might help ease your worries: they don't just automatically cut you off the moment you report income. The system is designed (at least in theory) to help people transition to work. With your boyfriend making $2400/month and your family's IRT at $2780, you're actually in a pretty good position. Here's what will likely happen when you report: they'll recalculate your benefits using the income disregards others mentioned, and you'll probably still receive some cash aid and food stamps. The transition is usually gradual, not a sudden cliff. Also, if you're worried about calling and getting disconnected (I've been there!), you can also report online through C4Yourself or even visit the office in person. Sometimes bringing paperwork in person actually gets things processed faster. The most important thing is to be honest and proactive. I've seen people get into serious trouble trying to hide income, but I've never seen anyone get penalized for reporting changes promptly, even if it reduces their benefits. You're clearly trying to do the right thing here, and that counts for a lot with the caseworkers. Good luck with everything! It sounds like your family is taking a positive step forward.

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PixelWarrior

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Thank you for sharing your experience! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who's been navigating this system for a while. You're absolutely right about being proactive - I think I was letting my anxiety get the better of me and imagining worst-case scenarios. The gradual transition approach makes so much more sense than just cutting people off completely. I didn't know about C4Yourself for online reporting - that might be easier than trying to get through on the phone. Your point about caseworkers appreciating honesty really hits home too. I keep forgetting that they're people doing their jobs, not enemies trying to trap us. I'm feeling much more confident about reporting this change now. Thanks for taking the time to share such encouraging and practical advice!

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Hey there! I can totally relate to your situation - I went through something really similar about 6 months ago when my partner started working again. The anxiety about potentially losing benefits while still needing them is so real! Based on what you've shared, it sounds like you're actually in a good spot since his income ($2400) is under your IRT ($2780). That means you can wait until your SAR7, but honestly? I'd recommend reporting it early anyway. Here's why: When I reported my partner's new job proactively, our worker was really helpful and walked me through exactly how the income disregards would work. With the $500 disregard plus 50% of the remaining income, we ended up keeping more benefits than I expected! Also, don't forget to ask about transitional Medi-Cal when you report - that was a lifesaver for us because even when our cash aid got reduced, we kept healthcare coverage for a full year. One practical tip: when you call to report, have his first few pay stubs ready and ask them to calculate your new benefit amount right then and there. It takes away the guesswork and helps you plan your budget. You're being really responsible by asking questions first. The system is confusing but there are definitely ways to make the transition to work without falling off a cliff. Good luck!

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This is such great practical advice! I didn't even think about transitional Medi-Cal - that's huge because I was worried we'd lose healthcare coverage too. Having them calculate the new benefit amount on the spot is brilliant - I hate the uncertainty of not knowing what to expect. It's so helpful hearing from someone who actually went through this recently and came out okay on the other side. I'm definitely going to gather up those pay stubs and make the call next week. Thanks for sharing your experience and for the reassurance that this doesn't have to be as scary as I'm making it in my head!

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I just want to say how much I appreciate this whole thread! I'm actually in a really similar situation - my husband just got hired last week and I've been losing sleep over whether to report it right away or wait. Reading everyone's experiences and advice has been so helpful. What really stands out to me is how many people are saying to be proactive about reporting. I was leaning toward waiting until our next SAR7, but seeing how the county workers respond better to people who report early makes a lot of sense. Plus, learning about all these programs I didn't know existed - transitional Medi-Cal, supportive services, Cal-Learn - makes me feel like there might actually be help available during this transition instead of just getting cut off. @StarStrider - I hope everything works out well for your family! It sounds like you're making a smart, well-informed decision by reporting the income change. Your boyfriend's new job could be the beginning of a really positive change for your family, especially with all the support programs people have mentioned here. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences, both good and bad. This community is such a valuable resource for navigating these complicated systems!

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AstroAlpha

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@Dominique Adams I m'so glad this thread has been helpful for you too! It s'amazing how much better I feel about this whole situation after reading everyone s'experiences. I was honestly panicking yesterday, but now I feel like I have a real plan. It s'such a relief to know we re'not alone in dealing with these transitions and that there are actually people who ve'made it through successfully. Good luck with your husband s'new job - sounds like we re'both taking steps in the right direction! And you re'absolutely right about this community being such a valuable resource. I never expected to get such detailed, caring advice from strangers on the internet. Makes me want to pay it forward and help other families going through similar situations once we re'through this transition ourselves.

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