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Sofia Ramirez

when does a ucc-1 expires - missed continuation deadline by 3 days

I'm in a complete panic right now. Our UCC-1 was filed back in 2019 for a $850K equipment loan and I just realized it expired 3 days ago. I thought I had it marked in my calendar but apparently I wrote down the wrong date. The lender is breathing down my neck asking for proof of perfection and I have no idea what to tell them. Can you still file a continuation after the 5-year mark or is the lien completely worthless now? This could potentially void our entire loan agreement and I'm terrified about what this means for our business. Has anyone dealt with this nightmare scenario before?

Dmitry Volkov

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Unfortunately once a UCC-1 expires you cannot file a continuation statement. The 5-year period is absolute - you have to file the UCC-3 continuation within 6 months before expiration. After expiration the security interest becomes unperfected automatically. Your lender will likely require you to file a completely new UCC-1, but there could be priority issues if other creditors filed in the meantime.

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StarSeeker

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This is exactly what happened to us last year. Bank made us refile everything and we lost priority to another lender who had filed right after our expiration. Cost us about $50K in additional collateral requirements.

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Ava Martinez

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Wait, I thought you had some grace period? Like 30 days or something?

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Dmitry Volkov

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No grace period whatsoever. The UCC is very strict about the 5-year limitation. You can only file continuation within the 6-month window before expiration, period.

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Miguel Ortiz

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This is a really tough situation but not necessarily the end of the world. Yes, your security interest lapsed, but you need to immediately file a new UCC-1 to re-perfect. The bigger issue is whether any other creditors jumped ahead of you during those 3 days. Check the filing records ASAP to see if anyone else filed against your debtor.

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Sofia Ramirez

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How do I check that? Is there a way to search all recent filings against our company name?

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Miguel Ortiz

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Yes, most Secretary of State websites have search functions where you can look up all UCC filings by debtor name. Search for your exact legal entity name and any variations to see what's been filed recently.

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Zainab Omar

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Also check for any judgment liens or tax liens that might have been filed. Those could take priority too.

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Connor Murphy

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I had a similar scare last month but caught it just in time. What saved me was using Certana.ai's document verification tool - I uploaded my original UCC-1 and it immediately flagged that my continuation deadline was approaching. The system cross-checks all the dates and sends alerts. Wish I'd found it sooner because manually tracking these deadlines is clearly unreliable.

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Sofia Ramirez

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Never heard of that service but sounds like it could have prevented this mess. Does it work with existing filings or just new ones?

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Connor Murphy

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Works with existing filings - you just upload the PDFs of your current UCC documents and it analyzes everything automatically. Catches name mismatches, calculates expiration dates, the whole nine yards.

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Yara Sayegh

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Honestly sounds too good to be true but at this point I'll try anything to avoid this happening again.

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NebulaNova

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THE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO TRAP SMALL BUSINESSES! Three days late and suddenly your million dollar loan is unsecured? This is absolutely ridiculous. There should be some reasonable grace period for administrative errors. How is anyone supposed to keep track of dozens of different filing deadlines across multiple states?

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I get the frustration but the 5-year rule exists for a reason. It provides certainty to other creditors about when security interests will lapse. If there were grace periods it would create chaos in the priority system.

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NebulaNova

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Easy for you to say when you're not the one facing potential bankruptcy because of a clerical error!

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Paolo Conti

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Look I sympathize but this is why you hire professionals or use systems to track these things. The rules are clear even if they're harsh.

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Amina Diallo

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been there done that, filed new ucc-1 same day and bank was ok with it since no other liens showed up. not ideal but not end of world either if you act fast

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Sofia Ramirez

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That's somewhat reassuring. Did you have to renegotiate any terms with the bank or did they just accept the new filing?

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Amina Diallo

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they made me pay for an updated title search and charged some fees but no major changes to loan terms since collateral value hadnt changed

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Oliver Schulz

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The real question is what your loan documents say about maintaining perfected security interests. Some agreements have cure periods while others consider any lapse an immediate default. You need to review your credit agreement carefully to understand your exposure beyond just the UCC issue.

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Sofia Ramirez

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Good point - I'll dig through the loan docs tonight. Hoping there's some language about inadvertent lapses or cure periods.

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Most commercial loans I've seen require continuous perfection with no cure period. But worth checking since some smaller lenders are more flexible.

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Oliver Schulz

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Exactly - and even if there's no formal cure period, if you have a good relationship with the lender they might work with you rather than declare a technical default.

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I actually just went through this exact scenario with a client. We immediately filed a new UCC-1 and prepared an affidavit explaining the administrative error. The key is being proactive and transparent with your lender. Most banks prefer to work with you rather than deal with the mess of an uncollateralized loan.

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Sofia Ramirez

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Did your client face any penalties or rate increases because of the lapse?

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The bank charged a small administrative fee and required an updated appraisal, but no rate changes. The key was acting immediately and showing it was an isolated mistake, not systemic negligence.

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That's actually a pretty reasonable response from the bank. Shows the value of maintaining good relationships with your lenders.

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For future reference, UCC-1 statements are effective for exactly 5 years from the date of filing. Continuation statements must be filed within the 6-month period before expiration - so between months 54 and 60. There are no exceptions or grace periods. The continuation extends the effectiveness for another 5 years.

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Emma Wilson

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Is there any difference in timing rules between different types of collateral or is it always 5 years?

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It's 5 years for all collateral types under Article 9, with the exception of certain fixture filings which follow real estate recording rules in some states.

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StarSeeker

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This thread convinced me to double-check all our UCC filings. Found two that expire next year that I had wrong dates for. Decided to try that Certana.ai tool mentioned earlier and holy cow - uploaded our UCC documents and it instantly caught three potential debtor name mismatches I never noticed. Already fixed two continuation deadlines I had calculated wrong.

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Sofia Ramirez

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Wow, name mismatches too? I thought my only problem was the expiration date but now I'm wondering what else I missed.

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StarSeeker

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Yeah it cross-checks everything - debtor names against articles of incorporation, collateral descriptions, filing numbers. Really thorough compared to doing it manually.

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Malik Davis

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Might have to check that out myself. These manual reviews are killing me and clearly I'm missing stuff.

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Paolo Conti

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Bottom line - file your new UCC-1 today, not tomorrow. Every day you wait increases the risk that another creditor could file and take priority over you. Then work with your attorney and lender to minimize any fallout from the lapse. Most importantly, put systems in place so this never happens again.

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Sofia Ramirez

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Already drafted the new UCC-1 and will file first thing tomorrow morning. Definitely learned my lesson about relying on manual calendar reminders.

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Smart move. And honestly the fact that you caught it only 3 days late shows you're at least paying attention. I've seen lapses go unnoticed for months.

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Paolo Conti

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True, 3 days is manageable. The real disasters happen when people don't realize for weeks or months that their security interests have lapsed.

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