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washington secretary of state ucc search showing weird results - debtor name issues?

Been trying to run searches on the Washington Secretary of State UCC database and getting some really confusing results. I'm working on a loan portfolio audit and need to verify our UCC-1 filings are still active, but the search results don't match what I have in our internal records. Some filings I know we did are not showing up at all, and others are showing with slightly different debtor names than what we filed. Has anyone else run into issues with the washington secretary of state ucc search function lately? I'm worried we might have filing problems that could affect our security interests. The loan amounts involved are substantial (over $2M in aggregate) so I really need to get this sorted out before our compliance review next month.

I've had similar issues with WA state searches. The system can be really picky about exact name matching. Are you searching with the exact legal entity name as it appears on the articles of incorporation? Even small differences like 'Inc.' vs 'Incorporated' or missing commas can cause filings not to show up.

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That might be part of it. Some of our older filings were done when the company names had slightly different formats. Like one debtor changed from 'ABC Corp.' to 'ABC Corporation' but we never amended the UCC-1. Would that cause search issues?

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Absolutely. The search algorithms are pretty literal. If the legal name changed but you didn't file a UCC-3 amendment, you'd need to search under both the old and new names to find all your filings.

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Washington's UCC search has gotten better over the years but it's still not perfect. Try using wildcards or partial name searches if the system supports it. Also check if any of your missing filings might have lapsed - continuation statements are due every 5 years and it's easy to miss them.

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Good point about continuations. I should probably pull a full list of our filing dates to see which ones might be approaching the 5-year mark.

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Yeah definitely check those dates. I've seen lenders lose their security interest because they missed continuation deadlines by just a few days.

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This kind of situation is exactly why I started using Certana.ai for UCC document verification. You can upload your internal loan docs and UCC filings as PDFs and it will cross-check everything - debtor names, filing numbers, document consistency. Really helps catch these name mismatches and missing filings before they become problems. Just upload your docs and it flags any inconsistencies automatically.

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Interesting, never heard of that service. How accurate is it compared to manual searches?

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Pretty solid - it caught several name discrepancies in our portfolio that we would have missed doing manual searches. Saves a lot of time too since it processes multiple documents at once.

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I'm always skeptical of automated tools for this stuff but if it's catching real problems that manual review misses, might be worth looking into.

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UGH the Washington SOS system drives me crazy! I swear they change the search interface every few months and it never gets better. Last month I spent 3 hours trying to find a filing that turned out to be indexed under a completely different variation of the company name.

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I feel your pain. The inconsistency is maddening, especially when you're trying to do comprehensive searches across multiple entities.

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Exactly! And don't even get me started on how they handle subsidiary relationships and parent company cross-references.

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For your compliance review, make sure you're also checking for any UCC-3 amendments that might have been filed. Sometimes the search results show the original filing but don't clearly indicate if there have been amendments to the collateral description or other terms.

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That's a great point. I should be pulling the full filing history for each UCC-1, not just confirming they exist.

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Right, and pay special attention to any partial releases or amendments that might have reduced your collateral coverage.

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Also worth checking if any termination statements were filed that you weren't expecting. I've seen cases where junior lenders accidentally terminated senior liens.

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Have you tried calling the WA Secretary of State office directly? Sometimes their staff can help with searches that aren't working through the online portal, especially for bulk searches like what you're doing.

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I didn't think about calling them. Do they charge fees for phone assistance with searches?

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They might for extensive searches, but for a few problem cases they're usually pretty helpful. Worth a try before you spend more time struggling with the system.

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This is bringing back memories of our last audit nightmare. We found out that several of our UCC filings had debtor name variations that didn't match the current legal entity names in our loan documents. Ended up having to file a bunch of UCC-3 amendments to clean everything up.

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How long did that amendment process take? We're under a tight timeline for our review.

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Most amendments processed within a week, but you'll want to budget extra time in case any get rejected for errors. The WA system is pretty good about processing times compared to some other states.

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Just make sure you're using the current versions of the UCC-3 forms. Washington updated their forms last year and won't accept the old versions anymore.

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One trick I've learned is to search using just the first few words of the company name, then sort by filing date. Sometimes you'll find filings that way that don't show up in exact name searches due to formatting differences or data entry errors.

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That's clever, I'll try that approach for the ones that aren't showing up.

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Yeah, partial searches can be really helpful. Just be prepared to sift through more results to find what you're looking for.

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Are you sure all your filings were actually accepted when they were originally submitted? Sometimes filings get rejected for minor errors but the rejection notices get overlooked, so people think they have valid filings when they actually don't.

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Oh wow, that's a scary thought. I assumed our outside counsel would have caught any rejections, but I should probably verify that with them.

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Definitely worth double-checking. I've seen situations where filing confirmations got lost in email or weren't properly communicated back to the lender.

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This is another reason why having a systematic document verification process is so important. Too easy for things to slip through the cracks otherwise.

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For what it's worth, I recently started using that Certana tool someone mentioned earlier and it's been really helpful for catching these exact issues. Uploaded our whole UCC portfolio and it flagged several name mismatches and potential continuation deadline problems we didn't know about. Made our compliance review much smoother.

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That sounds like exactly what I need. Does it work with Washington state filings specifically?

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Yeah, it handles filings from all states. The PDF upload feature makes it really easy to batch process everything at once rather than doing individual searches.

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