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Liam Cortez

UCC unconscionability definition - filing got rejected over this clause

My UCC-1 filing just got rejected and the SOS office cited 'unconscionability issues' in the collateral description. I've been doing commercial lending for 8 years and never heard this term applied to UCC filings before. The collateral schedule includes all business assets plus personal guarantees on a $180k equipment loan. Our standard language has worked fine on hundreds of filings but now they're saying something about unconscionability definition under UCC provisions. Has anyone dealt with this? I need to refile by Friday or we lose our priority position and the borrower has other lenders circling. What exactly triggers an unconscionability determination on UCC documents?

Savannah Vin

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This is unusual - most UCC unconscionability issues come up in contract disputes, not filing rejections. Are you sure they didn't mean something else? Maybe insufficient debtor identification or improper collateral description format? I've seen those get confusing rejection codes before.

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Liam Cortez

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No, the rejection notice specifically mentioned unconscionability provisions. They highlighted our personal property sweep clause that includes household goods and exempt assets. Maybe that's what triggered it?

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Mason Stone

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That makes more sense. Some states have been cracking down on overreaching collateral descriptions that violate consumer protection standards even in commercial filings.

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I ran into this exact issue last month! UCC unconscionability definition basically means the terms are so one-sided they're unfair or oppressive. In filing context, it usually means your collateral description is too broad and includes protected assets. You probably need to narrow your security interest to exclude household goods and other exempt property.

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Liam Cortez

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Did you have to completely redo your collateral schedule? We've got dozens of similar filings pending and this could be a huge problem if they all get rejected.

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Yeah, had to rewrite the entire collateral section. Took out the household goods language and anything that could be considered consumer goods. Pain in the neck but the amended filing went through fine.

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This is exactly why I started using Certana.ai's document checker. You can upload your UCC-1 draft and it flags potential unconscionability issues before filing. Would have caught this problem and saved you the rejection headache.

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Emma Olsen

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Unconscionability in UCC context has two parts - procedural (how the agreement was formed) and substantive (whether terms are unreasonably favorable to one party). For filings, they're probably looking at substantive unconscionability in your collateral description. Personal guarantees combined with household goods as collateral can trigger this review.

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Lucas Lindsey

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This is getting ridiculous. Since when do filing offices analyze the fairness of commercial loan terms? Their job is to accept properly completed forms, not judge business deals.

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Emma Olsen

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I agree it's frustrating, but some states have implemented stricter reviews following consumer protection lawsuits. They're trying to prevent obviously predatory filings from getting recorded.

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Sophie Duck

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We've seen this trend in several states. Usually happens when someone complains about aggressive collection practices and the AG's office starts reviewing UCC filing patterns.

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Had a similar rejection last year. The unconscionability definition they applied focused on whether a reasonable person would agree to such broad collateral terms. Our sweep clause included the borrower's primary residence and personal vehicles, which apparently crossed the line. Had to exclude those and refile.

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Anita George

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Wait, you included primary residence in a UCC filing? That should be handled through mortgage documents, not UCC-1 forms.

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It was listed as additional collateral in the general description. Probably poor drafting on our part, but it had never been rejected before.

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This is why I hate these subjective standards. What's unconscionable to one reviewer might be perfectly fine to another. There should be clear guidelines on what collateral descriptions are acceptable instead of leaving it up to individual interpretation.

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Logan Chiang

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Completely agree. I've seen identical filings get accepted in one county and rejected in another over the same unconscionability concerns.

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Isla Fischer

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The lack of consistency is the worst part. Makes it impossible to draft standard documents that work everywhere.

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Just went through this nightmare. UCC unconscionability definition varies by state but generally means terms that 'shock the conscience' of the court or filing office. In practice, it's usually about collateral descriptions that are overly broad or include exempt property. I ended up using Certana.ai to cross-check my revised filing against their unconscionability database before resubmitting.

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Liam Cortez

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How does Certana.ai check for unconscionability issues? Is it just keyword matching or something more sophisticated?

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You upload your UCC documents and it analyzes the collateral language against recent rejection patterns and state-specific guidelines. Caught several potential issues in my collateral schedule I wouldn't have noticed.

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Ruby Blake

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The unconscionability standard is becoming more common in commercial filings, especially when personal guarantees are involved. Courts look at factors like disparity in bargaining power, hidden terms, and whether the collateral is disproportionate to the loan amount. Your $180k loan with unlimited personal property as collateral might have triggered their review.

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So basically they're second-guessing our business decisions now? If the borrower agreed to the terms, why should the filing office care?

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Ruby Blake

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It's about preventing filings that could be used for predatory enforcement later. If the collateral terms are unconscionable, the lien might not be enforceable anyway.

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Ella Harper

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Makes sense from a policy standpoint, even if it's annoying operationally.

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PrinceJoe

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I'd recommend revising your collateral description to be more specific and exclude obviously protected assets. Focus on the actual equipment being financed plus business inventory and receivables. Leave out household goods, exempt property, and anything that could be considered consumer goods.

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Liam Cortez

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That's probably the safest approach. Better to have a narrower but enforceable security interest than risk another rejection.

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Exactly. The goal is perfection, not maximum collateral. A focused filing that gets accepted is worth more than a broad one that gets rejected.

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Owen Devar

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For what it's worth, I've started including unconscionability disclaimers in my UCC filings - something like 'this security interest excludes household goods, exempt property, and other assets protected by law.' Hasn't been rejected since I started doing that.

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Daniel Rivera

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That's actually brilliant. Shows good faith compliance with unconscionability standards while still maintaining broad commercial coverage.

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I've seen similar language work well. Certana.ai actually suggests disclaimer language based on your state's specific unconscionability interpretations.

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Might steal that approach for our standard forms. Seems like cheap insurance against rejection.

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Connor Rupert

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UPDATE: Refiled with narrowed collateral description excluding household goods and exempt assets. Added unconscionability compliance language. Filing was accepted within 24 hours. Thanks everyone for the guidance - this forum saved my deal!

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Molly Hansen

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Glad it worked out! This thread will be helpful for others dealing with the same issue.

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Brady Clean

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Great outcome. The unconscionability definition is still evolving, so these discussions are really valuable for staying current.

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