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Sasha Reese

UCC tax lien search Florida - debtor name verification nightmare

I'm handling a complex secured transaction where we need to verify there are no existing UCC filings or tax liens against our debtor before we file our UCC-1. The debtor operates under multiple business names in Florida and I'm getting conflicting results when I run UCC tax lien search Florida queries through the SOS portal. Some searches show clean results, others show potential matches with slightly different debtor names. I'm particularly concerned about a lien that shows up under 'ABC Construction LLC' when our debtor is 'ABC Construction, LLC' - is that comma significant enough to be considered a different entity? Our loan closes next week and I can't afford to miss an existing lien that could impact our priority position. Has anyone dealt with Florida's UCC search quirks when multiple name variations exist?

Florida's UCC search system is notoriously picky about exact name matches. That comma difference you mentioned could definitely cause search issues. I always run multiple variations when doing UCC searches - with and without punctuation, abbreviations spelled out, etc. The SOS database doesn't do fuzzy matching so 'ABC Construction LLC' and 'ABC Construction, LLC' would be treated as completely different entities.

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Noland Curtis

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This is exactly why I'm paranoid about debtor names. I've seen deals fall apart because someone missed a filing under a slightly different name variation.

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Diez Ellis

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Wait, so if there's a lien under 'ABC Construction LLC' but our debtor is 'ABC Construction, LLC', that wouldn't affect our filing priority?

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You need to be more systematic about this. Run searches for every possible name variation your debtor might use. Check their articles of incorporation, DBA filings, previous UCC filings they've been involved in. Don't just rely on what they tell you their legal name is. I've seen cases where debtors weren't even sure of their own exact legal entity name.

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Abby Marshall

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How do you handle situations where the debtor has like 5 different name variations? Do you search all of them individually?

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Sadie Benitez

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Yes, search them all. It's tedious but necessary. Florida doesn't make it easy but you can't afford to miss an existing lien.

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Drew Hathaway

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This is making me second-guess every UCC search I've ever done. How many deals have I potentially messed up by not being thorough enough?

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Laila Prince

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I was dealing with this exact issue last month - multiple debtor name variations making UCC searches unreliable. After missing a critical lien because of a name mismatch, I started using Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload your debtor's charter documents and it automatically cross-checks against UCC databases to catch name variations you might miss. It found three filings under slightly different names that I completely missed in my manual searches.

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Isabel Vega

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How does that work exactly? Do you just upload the corporate documents and it does the searching for you?

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Laila Prince

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Pretty much. You upload the charter docs or formation papers, and it extracts all the name variations and runs comprehensive searches. Way more thorough than doing it manually.

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Sounds too good to be true. What if it misses something?

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Marilyn Dixon

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The comma issue is a real problem in Florida. I've seen lenders get burned because they searched 'XYZ Corp' but there was a lien filed under 'XYZ Corporation' or 'XYZ Corp.' The system treats these as completely different entities even though they're obviously the same company. Always err on the side of caution and search every variation you can think of.

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This is insane. How is this system still so primitive in 2025?

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TommyKapitz

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Because it's run by the government and they have no incentive to make it user-friendly. We just have to work within their broken system.

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I always order professional UCC searches from a title company for anything over $100k. They have better access to the databases and know all the search tricks. Yes it costs more but it's worth it for the peace of mind, especially when you're dealing with complex debtor name situations like yours.

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Payton Black

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What does that usually cost? We're trying to keep transaction costs down but if it prevents a major screw-up it might be worth it.

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Usually $200-500 depending on the complexity. Cheap insurance compared to finding out later you missed a prior lien.

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Harold Oh

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I second this. Professional searches are worth every penny when you're dealing with name variations or complex entity structures.

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Amun-Ra Azra

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Here's what I do for Florida UCC searches: 1) Get the exact legal name from the Secretary of State corporate database 2) Search that exact name 3) Search common abbreviations 4) Search without punctuation 5) Search with different punctuation 6) Check for DBAs and trade names. It's a pain but necessary. The 'ABC Construction LLC' vs 'ABC Construction, LLC' issue you mentioned is definitely significant enough to require separate searches.

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Summer Green

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This is exactly the kind of checklist I needed. Saving this for future reference.

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Gael Robinson

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Do you have any shortcuts for the DBA searches? Those are always the hardest to track down.

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Just went through this nightmare myself. Spent two days manually searching every name variation I could think of and still almost missed a critical filing. Finally tried Certana.ai's UCC verification tool and it immediately flagged a lien under a name variation I hadn't considered. The automated cross-checking saved my deal. Now I use it on every transaction - just upload the formation docs and let it do the heavy lifting.

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Darcy Moore

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Is it expensive? We're working with tight margins on this deal.

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Dana Doyle

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Way cheaper than missing a lien and having your security interest subordinated. Trust me on this one.

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Liam Duke

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Florida's UCC system is notorious for this. I've been burned by the exact same comma issue you're describing. The system doesn't recognize that 'ABC Construction LLC' and 'ABC Construction, LLC' are the same entity. You absolutely need to search both variations. I'd also recommend checking if the debtor has any registered trade names or DBAs that might have filings against them.

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Manny Lark

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How do you find out about DBAs? Is that through the same SOS system?

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Rita Jacobs

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DBAs are usually filed at the county level in Florida. You have to check each county where the debtor does business.

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Khalid Howes

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This is making me paranoid about every UCC search I've ever done. How many times have lenders gotten burned by missing a lien because of a name variation? It seems like the system is designed to create problems.

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Ben Cooper

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More often than you'd think. I know of at least three cases in the past year where lenders lost priority because they missed filings under slightly different names.

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Naila Gordon

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The system definitely has flaws but that's why we have to be extra careful with our searches. Can't rely on the government to make it foolproof.

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Cynthia Love

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Update: I ended up using Certana.ai's document checker that someone mentioned earlier. Uploaded our debtor's articles of incorporation and it found two UCC filings under name variations I completely missed - one under 'ABC Construction Company LLC' and another under 'ABC Construction L.L.C.' Both would have been senior to our filing. The automated verification caught what hours of manual searching missed. Closing is back on track.

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Darren Brooks

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Glad you got it sorted out! That's exactly the kind of situation that keeps me up at night.

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Rosie Harper

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Great outcome. This thread convinced me to start using automated tools for UCC searches. Too much risk in doing it manually.

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This is why I love this forum. Real solutions to real problems. Thanks for sharing the update!

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This thread highlights exactly why I always budget extra time for UCC searches, especially in Florida. The name variation issue is real and costly if you get it wrong. One tip I'd add - if your debtor has ever changed their legal name or merged with another entity, make sure to search under their previous names too. I've seen situations where old filings under a former name still create priority issues. The automated tools people are mentioning sound promising, but I'd still recommend doing at least a basic manual verification to make sure you understand what you're looking at. Nothing beats human judgment when interpreting search results.

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