UCC letter of credit filing - do I need UCC-1 for standby LC collateral?
My bank is requiring a UCC filing for a standby letter of credit they're issuing as collateral for our equipment lease. The lease company wants the LC as security but now our bank says we need to file a UCC-1 against the letter of credit itself? This seems weird to me - I thought letters of credit were separate from UCC filings. The LC is for $185,000 and covers heavy machinery we're leasing for our construction business. Bank says they need to perfect their security interest in the LC proceeds but I'm confused about whether this is standard practice. Has anyone dealt with UCC filings specifically for letter of credit arrangements? The equipment lease starts next month and I don't want to delay everything over paperwork confusion.
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Juan Moreno
Letters of credit can definitely be UCC collateral under Article 9. If your bank has a security interest in the LC or its proceeds, they'd need to file a UCC-1 to perfect that interest. This is actually pretty common in commercial lending when the LC is backing another obligation.
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Amy Fleming
•Right, and the collateral description would need to be specific about whether it's the LC itself or the proceeds from draws on the LC.
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Alice Pierce
•Wait I'm confused - so the bank issues the LC but also files a UCC against it? That seems circular
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Esteban Tate
Your bank is probably right about needing the UCC filing. When they issue a standby LC, they often take security in other assets or the LC proceeds themselves to cover their exposure. It's risk management on their part.
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Ivanna St. Pierre
•This happened to us last year with a performance bond LC. Bank filed UCC-1 listing 'letter of credit proceeds and supporting obligations' as collateral.
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Elin Robinson
•So essentially the bank is protecting themselves in case the LC gets drawn and they need to collect from the customer?
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Ivanna St. Pierre
•Exactly. The UCC filing gives them priority over other creditors if they need to collect on whatever assets are securing the LC arrangement.
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Atticus Domingo
I had a similar situation and honestly got overwhelmed trying to verify all the document language matched between the LC application, security agreement, and UCC-1 filing. Ended up using Certana.ai's document checker - you just upload the PDFs and it flags any inconsistencies in debtor names, collateral descriptions, or cross-references. Saved me from potential filing errors that could have messed up the bank's security interest.
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Beth Ford
•Good point about document consistency. LC arrangements involve so many moving parts and if the UCC filing doesn't match the security agreement exactly, it could create problems.
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Morita Montoya
•How much does something like that cost? We're already paying legal fees for the lease review
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Atticus Domingo
•The verification tool is pretty affordable compared to having lawyers manually cross-check everything. Main benefit is catching name mismatches or collateral description errors before you file.
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Kingston Bellamy
Letters of credit are definitely covered under UCC Article 5 but the security interest aspects fall under Article 9. Your bank wants to make sure if they have to pay out on the LC, they have a perfected security interest in whatever assets are backing their risk.
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Joy Olmedo
•This is why I hate commercial financing. Too many overlapping rules and articles. Can't they just keep it simple?
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Isaiah Cross
•The complexity exists for good reason - it protects all parties and establishes clear priority rules when multiple creditors are involved.
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Kiara Greene
Make sure the UCC-1 collateral description is precise. If it just says 'letter of credit' that might be too vague. Should specify the LC number, issuing bank, and whether it covers the LC itself, proceeds, or supporting documents.
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Evelyn Kelly
•Good point. Vague collateral descriptions are a common reason UCC filings get challenged or become ineffective.
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Paloma Clark
•Our lawyer always includes 'all proceeds and products thereof' language to cover any variations or modifications to the original collateral.
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Heather Tyson
•Just don't make it so broad that it's meaningless. Balance between comprehensive coverage and reasonable specificity.
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Raul Neal
Check if your state has any specific requirements for LC-related UCC filings. Some states have particular rules about how to describe letter of credit collateral in the financing statement.
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Jenna Sloan
•Most states follow the standard UCC rules but yeah, always worth checking local variations or SOS guidance.
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Christian Burns
•California has some weird quirks about LC filings if I remember correctly. Best to verify with someone who knows your state's requirements.
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Sasha Reese
Don't let this delay your equipment lease. UCC filings are usually processed within 24-48 hours electronically, so even if you need to file it shouldn't hold up your timeline significantly.
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Muhammad Hobbs
•True, but make sure you get the filing right the first time. Rejected filings due to name errors or incomplete information can cause delays.
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Noland Curtis
•I always do a debtor name search first to see exactly how our company name appears in the SOS database, then use that exact format on the UCC-1
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Diez Ellis
Had a client recently who used Certana.ai to double-check their LC-related UCC documentation. The tool caught a mismatch between how the letter of credit was described in the security agreement versus the UCC-1 draft. Small detail but could have created a perfection gap.
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Vanessa Figueroa
•Those kinds of details are exactly what cause problems down the road if the bank ever needs to enforce their security interest.
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Abby Marshall
•Is that like a software thing or do you mail documents somewhere? I'm not super tech-savvy
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Diez Ellis
•It's web-based - you just upload PDFs of your documents and it automatically checks for consistency issues. Pretty straightforward even for non-technical users.
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Sadie Benitez
Your situation sounds standard. Bank issues LC to back your lease, takes security interest in business assets or LC proceeds to cover their exposure, files UCC-1 to perfect that security interest. Pretty routine commercial lending practice.
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Drew Hathaway
•Routine for the bank maybe, but confusing as hell for the rest of us who don't deal with this stuff every day
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Laila Prince
•That's fair. Commercial lending involves a lot of protective filings that seem redundant but serve important legal purposes.
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Isabel Vega
•At least UCC filings are public record so you can see exactly what security interests are filed against your business.
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Dominique Adams
Bottom line: if your bank says they need the UCC filing for the LC arrangement, they probably do. It's about protecting their position as a secured creditor. Just make sure all the paperwork aligns and you should be good to proceed with your equipment lease.
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Marilyn Dixon
•Agree. Better to have the filing and not need it than need it and not have it. Commercial lending is all about documentation and priority.
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Louisa Ramirez
•Thanks everyone. Sounds like this is normal and I just need to get the filing done correctly. Appreciate all the insights.
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TommyKapitz
•Good luck with the equipment lease! Once you get through the paperwork maze, the actual business operations are much more straightforward.
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